If we are talking about V-Series Agents, we might as well talk about the secret Soviet Program to develop additional V-series compounds[1] that would be undetectable by the west. It is important to note that there are many vectors of entry for a V-series agent, and in this case, evidence points to an atomized version, as opposed to the dermal administration which is more common among this class. An atomized version t…
> not the dermal would explain why two women attempting to aid "with bare hands" would not have been harmed. Can you explain exactly how they carried out the assassination without harming themselves? Each had two different compounds on their hands (or one with a rag?) and they touched his face in sequence. Then only on his face did they combine to become the nerve agent? What about the last girl who touched his face,…
Kim Jong-Nam Was Killed by VX Nerve Agent, Malaysians Say
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#182Interesting tid-bit from Wikipedia [1] In fiscal year 2008, the US Department of Defense released a study finding that the U.S. had dumped at least 124 tons of VX into the Atlantic Ocean off the coasts of New York/New Jersey and Florida, between 1969 and 1970. This material consisted of nearly 22,000 M55 rockets, 19 bulk containers holding 1,400 pounds (640 kg) each, and one M23 chemical landmine. [25] [1] https://en…
so if I read wikipedia well, 10 milligrams are enough to kill a person, so we have 124 Tons = 124 000 000 000 / 10 = 12 400 000 000 deadly doses in the ocean. Interesting. I wonder what the half-life of this VX thing is :-)
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#183Doesn't North Korea has ICBM missiles capable of reaching Italy or Washington DC? A missile full of VX agent is scary to me. The most North KOrea can fit on a missile is a warhead as powerful as Hiroshima's but a missile full of VX could potentially kill everyone in Washington DC Plus think of all the implications of transporting VX through international borders. Did China accept having North Korean agents transporti…
North Korea launching a weapon of mass destruction on anyone on this planet, would ensure North Korea ceases to exist. They are just nonsense posturing, and empty threats. In the end we say yes, yes, grand wizard of NK, you are the best. Then we give them some money, and wait for their next silly display.
This will mean that China has ordered them to do that. It will not happen in any other way.
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. And who knows what the affects of that were. But I do not agree with the claim that this is interesting in this context as it seems irrelevant to the discussion.
> it seems irrelevant to the discussion Unless the victim ate the wrong fish.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
The method seemed to be specifically selected to implicate only one person, without any direct evidence that could prove that he ordered it. It's already bad enough to execute political rivals in your own territory, but when you go and do a public "message" assassination in another country, people might start to think you may be too dangerous to be a head of state--even those in your nominally allied states. The best…
600+ attempts to frame the CIA? Some involving large amounts of explosives, and snipers? That's what I call dedication!
1. CIA's attempts to assassinate Castro resemble episodes from a long-running prank-based reality show.
2. The Kim assassination got some participants to believe the op was part of a prank-based reality show. It could only have been done by a state actor.
3. (Donning tin foil hat) CIA connection! Looking like a prank show is their calling card!
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's easy to check for guns at customs.
Any spy agency worth a damn should be able to source weapons locally.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
so if I read wikipedia well, 10 milligrams are enough to kill a person, so we have 124 Tons = 124 000 000 000 / 10 = 12 400 000 000 deadly doses in the ocean. Interesting. I wonder what the half-life of this VX thing is :-)
The ocean may have diluted it a bit.