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Re: The latest version of the LittleDog robot

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Its been said before, but needs to be repeated every time: The implications of this line of R&D are horrific. Removing the risk of say, US soldier casualties, combined with media control, and with "merely" the current level of inhumanity of political leadership, would be a very ugly mix indeed. So yeah, its hard for me to get excited about the tech in this case.

We are rushing headlong into robotic automation. Civilian and military uses will abound. The day when hiding our head from technology was a solution is long past. Responsibility is the only option left that doesn't involve war. Our "leaders" will only be as insane as we allow them. People don't get the government they deserve; we get the one we'll tolerate.

Re: The latest version of the LittleDog robot

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're only horrific if they're misused. Robots like this will also have plenty of non-military applications - especially in agriculture. Legged locomotion opens up the possibility of cultivating land which was previously inaccessible to conventional farming automation. It should also be said that there is nothing inevitable about the close association between robotics and the military - it's just an artefact of Ame…

They're only horrific if they're misused. Given that this whole line of research is funded by the US military, what do you mean by "misused" ? Wouldn't "used" be more accurate?

Under "misuse" I would include things like:

Use of robots for the purpose of prosecuting a war crime

Use of robots to carry out an act of terrorism

Indiscriminate use of deadly force by autonomous robots

Use of autonomous robots in a military context without proper supervision (for example, not being able to deactivate them once deployed).

Re: The latest version of the LittleDog robot

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post #21

honestly this is just frightening.

I personally find unseen UAV's raining missiles down on our heads to be much more terrifying. I'm actually quite excited about this tech. The first thing I thought when I saw this video was one of these things walking on the surface of Mars.

Re: The latest version of the LittleDog robot

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I find amazing how difficult it is to successfully perform apparently trivial tasks such as walking. There's more information about the 'LittleDog' on the Boston Dynamics website: http://www.bostondynamics.com/ I was really impressed 2 years ago by their video of the 'BigDog': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww (check out t=40s)

I find it amazing HN readers believe walking is a trivial task.

The key word being "apparently".

Re: The latest version of the LittleDog robot

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post #21

honestly this is just frightening.

I personally find unseen UAV's raining missiles down on our heads to be much more terrifying. I'm actually quite excited about this tech. The first thing I thought when I saw this video was one of these things walking on the surface of Mars.

Agreed re: the UAV comment. Imagine a world where big brother is watching everything you do, and can kill you from the other side of the world with the press of a button, with absolutely no warning, with no way for you to defend yourself, and no way to attempt to explain your actions to someone.

A walking robot is much less terrifying.

The first thing I thought was that countries such as Cambodia could one day exist without landmines.

Re: The latest version of the LittleDog robot

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike the A-bomb which is lovely. Or the decidedly low-tech genocide in Sudan. Or the genocides and crimes against humanity in all the other places. Bottom line is Homo homini lupus . It's not like the risk of US soldier casualties is that much of deterrent. Bombs, A-bombs, robots, not that different, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

So existence of A-bomb or low-tech genocide somehow justifies creation of new means to kill people?

It doesn't justify anything. It just shows that we are already killing people in almost every way imaginable so another new one would not be anything all that new.
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