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Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by TopRamen33 » Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 5:12 AM UTC

smsm42 wrote: post #360

ojbyrne wrote: post #358

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If that's all they could find after eight years in office, you're making the opposite point to the one you think you're making.

Why that would be all? Of course it's not all. It's just one random article that I've seen couple of days ago, I didn't make a full survey of whole 8 years. It is enough though to establish the fact that the some of the press did field softball questions to Obama - in addition to publicly gushing about how awesome he is - which fact should be obvious to anybody who paid any attention through his tenure.

You didn't read the article did you? Most of these questions were asked in TV interviews which are generally very favorable to the President.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by mturmon » Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 5:30 AM UTC

hwang89 wrote: post #180

Dangeranger wrote: post #126

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This is exactly the strategy the WH is starting to employ. Look at Russian tactics against the press in 2006-2007 and you can predict the WH next move. They are stealing from their playbook. Revoke. Replace. Erode.

What is the next move?

Masha Gessen's outstanding piece from November is holding up pretty well: http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/11/10/trump-election-autoc...

"The national press is likely to be among the first institutional victims of Trumpism. There is no law that requires the presidential administration to hold daily briefings, none that guarantees media access to the White House. Many journalists may soon face a dilemma long familiar to those of us who have worked under autocracies: fall in line or forfeit access."

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by mturmon » Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 5:34 AM UTC

smsm42 wrote: post #335

Dangeranger wrote: post #192

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Here are some examples: https://medium.com/@alexey__kovalev/message-to-american-medi... https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/you-thought-this-was-roc...

I don't see anything about next moves in either. The only thing I could get from the first one is that Trump will produce a lot of bullshit. That's not exactly next move, he's doing it for years now. The second one mostly devoted to mocking Trump's first press-conference, still no next moves.

The linked piece says much more than that, of course.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by esahione » Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 5:42 AM UTC

slededit wrote: post #156

oxide wrote: post #20

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No, it isn't a good message at all. In fact, I'd say it's downright ominous. FCC is in the middle of legalizing regional monopolies, DEA is busy banning Kratom in the middle of the worst opiate crisis in decades, and the White House is barring media outlets from press briefings. it doesn't even sound like I'm talking about America, right? something is very, very wrong.

> FCC is in the middle of legalizing regional monopolies, DEA is busy banning Kratom in the middle of the worst opiate crisis in decades, and the White House is barring media outlets from press briefings. Actually everything except the press ban sounds pretty much like the American I can remember since my teenage years. What do you think happened during the crack epidemic? The rules to prevent these large media monop…

Honestly, it's like the Trump administration is trying to undo any social and economic progress since the 80s.

When did the US become so complacent to shit policy? We've tried war on drugs before, IT DOES NOT WORK. We created 'bad hombres' down there.

The crack epidemic was another racially and politically motivated solution.

The fact we still use a law, to this day, that was created to cause destruction to hippie/black communities and break down protests against the war is absurd.

And anyone, in 2017, that still considers drug use a law enforcement issue is out of touch with reality and science.

So fuck the Republican party right now.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by belovedeagle » Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 5:42 AM UTC

EduardoBautista wrote: post #373

belovedeagle wrote: post #322

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> surgical gerrymandering Also known as "state lines", a great many of which have been in place for over a century.

I don't know why you are being downvoted. Gerrymandering affects congressional districts and has no direct effect on the presidential election.

WHAT?! NO! TRUMPIST LIES, ALL OF IT!

Everyone knows that gerrymandering is the only way Republicans ever get any votes — really they should get zero!

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by dang » Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 6:05 AM UTC

donwan wrote: post #314

mythrwy wrote: post #302

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My point is in the original post but you are making it so much better than I ever could.

You haven't made point one. Give it a fucking rest.

We've banned this account for breaking the HN guidelines. Would you please stop creating accounts to do this with?

Everybody's political feelings are inflamed these days, so we all need to work together to prevent this site from going down in flames.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by dang » Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 6:25 AM UTC

boona wrote: post #330

> He has taken to blatantly and explicitly lying about simple verifiable facts, and doubling down on those lies when challenged. I'm not saying that's not true (I'm not a Trump supporter), but what sticks out to you as an instance of him doubling down on a lie? Edit: It's disappointing to be down voted rather than being directly engaged. If you have a beef with what I said, please tell me where I've erred. I would lo…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13727728 and marked it off-topic.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by dang » Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 6:27 AM UTC

SnowFace wrote: post #359

mwpmaybe wrote: post #354

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Start here: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/stateme... How about: * Lying about his past opposition to the Iraq war * Lying about Russia only hacking the DNC (they hacked the RNC too, or at least tried to, but didn't release anything) * Lying about the size of the crowd at his inauguration * Lying about his "historic" electoral win (it wasn't) * Lying about the election being rigged against him (…

Shame on you. You don't like his politics, fine, but cut the propaganda. > Lying about his past support for the Iraq war Go watch his Howard Stern interview yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OU_Vrb_QXo . Listen at how indecisive he is for that question compared to the rest of the interview. It's wishy washy. It's hesitant. It's not a statement of support to call someone a liar over, unless you have an agenda…

> Shame on you. You don't like his politics, fine, but cut the propaganda.

You can't address other users like that on Hacker News, so please don't do it again.

Also, this account has been using HN exclusively for political battle. That's an abuse of this site and we ban accounts that do it. The purpose of HN is to gratify intellectual curiosity. It can't both be that kind of site and a political battlefield.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by dragonwriter » Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 6:37 AM UTC

EduardoBautista wrote: post #373

belovedeagle wrote: post #322

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> surgical gerrymandering Also known as "state lines", a great many of which have been in place for over a century.

I don't know why you are being downvoted. Gerrymandering affects congressional districts and has no direct effect on the presidential election.

> Gerrymandering affects congressional districts and has no direct effect on the presidential election.

There are a couple states that assign Presidential electors on a basis of two to the statewide winner plus one to the winner in each Congressional district, rather than winner-take-all, so Congressional districting (including gerrymandering) does have a direct effect on Presidential election s as well as House elections.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by EduardoBautista » Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 7:07 AM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #389

EduardoBautista wrote: post #373

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I don't know why you are being downvoted. Gerrymandering affects congressional districts and has no direct effect on the presidential election.

> Gerrymandering affects congressional districts and has no direct effect on the presidential election. There are a couple states that assign Presidential electors on a basis of two to the statewide winner plus one to the winner in each Congressional district, rather than winner-take-all, so Congressional districting (including gerrymandering) does have a direct effect on Presidential election s as well as House elec…

They have a total of 5 electoral votes. When split the only election where they could have made a difference was in 2000. But yes, in this case it those have a direct effect but a VERY minor effect that has never affected the outcome of an election.