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Infringement of patents (the ’273 patent, entitled “Microrod Compression of Laser Beam in Combination with Transmit Lens")
Infringement, yes, but how can you 'steal' a patent?
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Uber launched their beta in Pittsburgh just before Otto acquisition. This doesn't explain it. It explains how they quickly wanted to build their own lidar.
Oh come on. CMU had its own DARPA contenders, and where on earth is this grand institution you ask ? "Pittsburgh" !
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Otto was a YC company so there's your answer. People condone a lot of awful if they 1) make money off it; 2) Have some emotional connection to it
As far as I know Otto wasn't YC - are you sure you're not thinking of Cruise (which was acquired by GM)?
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That sounds awful! Is that just a "laptop" rule (i.e. are "desktops" exempt)?
Workstations mount what's called citc (clients in the cloud). And you can use whatever ide or editor you like. Code is never downloaded directly to the desktop. You don't really notice any performance issues with this and you get the benefit of being able to build or include any library without having to download it all. Laptops can't mount citc, and you need to either SSH/rdp into a workstation or use a web based co…
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The problem is, it doesn't seem like prevention or detection was working here at all. Even though they clearly collected enough data to reconstruct what happened, they both failed to prevent this, by not having even common sense security protections, nor did they detect it when it occurred, only finding out because a supplier ratted out another client. These are not high cost processes, these are basic, common sense…
> You are continuing to let your experience with a single, hostile work environment cloud your openness to something that... isn't even controversial. I'm flattered that you want to talk about me, but really, I'm not the subject of the discussion here, and it's inappropriate to talk about what's going through my head or to try and psychoanalyze me. > These are not high cost processes, these are basic, common sense pr…
In this case, Waymo has a design server, Anthony clearly didn't work on it's contents, because he didn't already have the software to access that server on his computer. Therefore, regardless of the source of the IP (which isn't his, he sold it), he really shouldn't have ever been given access to it. When the server was first spun up, access should've been given to... the people who would be using it, and nobody else.
Of course, if at some point he did need to access those files, he could ask, and be granted that access. And that doesn't need to be a difficult process (granting access to things takes an IT person a minute or two), but there is now an additional person that knows that user has been recently added to access. Even informally, this is a pretty good security measure, because in most cases, it should be fairly obvious why someone needs something. And if it's not obvious, and maybe that employee has been, as the article says, talking about leaving the company and replicating the technology elsewhere... suddenly that IT person maybe has a reason to mention the issue up the chain.
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The word "theft" can have different meanings depending on context. Most people think in ethical terms rather than legal.
Well then I guess there exists a difference in ethics. Theft involves deprivation of the specific thing taken. So deleting the original data after copying it might consist of theft.
Not necessarily. Theft is simply taking something you shouldn't. That includes taking by duplication. Or perhaps you'd like to think it as the deprivation of potential profits.
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Workstations mount what's called citc (clients in the cloud). And you can use whatever ide or editor you like. Code is never downloaded directly to the desktop. You don't really notice any performance issues with this and you get the benefit of being able to build or include any library without having to download it all. Laptops can't mount citc, and you need to either SSH/rdp into a workstation or use a web based co…
Wish they used citc/Git/blaze... but oh well. There's a wrapper internally but I heard it was crap, so I never used it.
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Maybe you might, but if you give me the choice of being in jail or not, I think I'd rather keep my windows unbarred.
He's not going to jail, he's white.
If you don't want it to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and promise to follow the rules in the future.
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> When we called them on it, they basically threatened to use lawyers to put us out of business if we pursued the issue, so I guess our management decided to drop it. We did make them change the support email and phone number. This is why we can't have nice things. Darned lawyers. Can't live with them, can't live without them
To be fair ...saying you'd use lawyers to put someone out of business makes no sense unless the company had done something that the lawyers could go after. Hating on lawyers for being aimed at a company is like hating the court system for being available. The bigco's lawyers arent doing this of their own motivation. I'm' sure there was other stuff going on that made the op's company back down.
Some day people will say the same of software engineers.
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Based on the story from Flash Boys, that Goldman engineer was taking something like a couple of megs worth of his own work that was related to various open source projects. But he became the poster boy for stealing trade secrets and an example to be made of. His mistake was that he used the company internet connection to upload said source files to something like his personal github or dropbox of the sort, so there w…
What's to stop someone from sending sensitive data as an attachment via email using an encrypted email service? I don't think a proxy can detect much besides data size correct? I suppose a virtual desktop could log which files are uploaded.
While most of such companies actively MITM their HTTPS connections (I wonder whether Google does that - theoretically they are CA so it would be extra easy for them), you could probably get away to uploading said file to any service that is small enough to be unknown to corporate firewall providers (Symantec, etc).