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> He has taken to blatantly and explicitly lying about simple verifiable facts, and doubling down on those lies when challenged. I'm not saying that's not true (I'm not a Trump supporter), but what sticks out to you as an instance of him doubling down on a lie? Edit: It's disappointing to be down voted rather than being directly engaged. If you have a beef with what I said, please tell me where I've erred. I would lo…
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He may have inferred from your tone a common algorithm: 1. Ask to clarify meaning when the meaning requires only superficial analysis. 2. Ask for sources. 3. Dispute illegitimate sources, while clarifying which sources are acceptable, without ability to see bias in "legitimate" sources. 4. Await response, assuming it will be hostile. 5. Respond with other hostile algorithm.
>Ask to clarify meaning when the meaning requires only superficial analysis. A block of text of potentially real, potentially fabricated dates and events without any clarifying text doesn't really fit this description. I mean, if we want to throw arguments into algorithms I can just as easily point to: 1. Throw out dubious claims and/or unrelated/incorrect facts 2. Claim dishonesty when claims are not accepted on fac…
The HN ranking algorithm buried this post really quickly. Right now it has 466 points, 229 comments, is 1 hour old, and ranked at #32. For comparision, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13725093 has 197 points, 39 comments, is 4 hours old, and ranked at #13. Does anyone know why the ranking algorithm demoted this article and not the other (even though this one is younger and more popular)? I know it applies penalt…
more stuff algorithm stuff here
http://www.righto.com/2013/11/how-hacker-news-ranking-really...
> He has taken to blatantly and explicitly lying about simple verifiable facts, and doubling down on those lies when challenged. I'm not saying that's not true (I'm not a Trump supporter), but what sticks out to you as an instance of him doubling down on a lie? Edit: It's disappointing to be down voted rather than being directly engaged. If you have a beef with what I said, please tell me where I've erred. I would lo…
How about:
* Lying about his past opposition to the Iraq war
* Lying about Russia only hacking the DNC (they hacked the RNC too, or at least tried to, but didn't release anything)
* Lying about the size of the crowd at his inauguration
* Lying about his "historic" electoral win (it wasn't)
* Lying about the election being rigged against him (before the election)
* Lying about the state of African American communities
* Lying about inner-city crime rates
* Lying about Obama and Clinton literally "founding" ISIS
* Lying about Ted Cruz's father being involved in the JFK assassination
* Lying about his charitable donations and activities
* Lying about his inability to release his tax returns because of an ongoing IRS audit
* Lying about his association with David Duke and the white national movement
* Lying about his history and relationship with Vladimir Putin
That's just a taste. I could go on.
The HN ranking algorithm buried this post really quickly. Right now it has 466 points, 229 comments, is 1 hour old, and ranked at #32. For comparision, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13725093 has 197 points, 39 comments, is 4 hours old, and ranked at #13. Does anyone know why the ranking algorithm demoted this article and not the other (even though this one is younger and more popular)? I know it applies penalt…
I doubt the algorithm did it. It was probably ranked down by the moderators as too political and not tech enough. more stuff algorithm stuff here http://www.righto.com/2013/11/how-hacker-news-ranking-really...
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>Ask to clarify meaning when the meaning requires only superficial analysis. A block of text of potentially real, potentially fabricated dates and events without any clarifying text doesn't really fit this description. I mean, if we want to throw arguments into algorithms I can just as easily point to: 1. Throw out dubious claims and/or unrelated/incorrect facts 2. Claim dishonesty when claims are not accepted on fac…
So... you did understand what he said, and are assuming he's hostile? This seems to contradict that you were asking honest feedback.
>Claim dishonesty when claims are not accepted on face value
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So... you did understand what he said, and are assuming he's hostile? This seems to contradict that you were asking honest feedback.
What? No, I don't understand what he said. It was a list of dates and events that I don't know are true or accurate, without any context of why he commented them. I was referring to you when I said >Claim dishonesty when claims are not accepted on face value
Assuming it is bills claim to ehich you refer, if you don't understand the context, how can it be a claim?
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Depends on if they start excluding organizations and lining up softballs from cranks.
You mean softballs like: - Golf, what does it do for you? - How does your golf game hold up next to Tiger’s? - What has enchanted you the most from serving in this office? - In this fatherless world, where did you learn to love? - Are you ready to call yourself the ‘comeback kid’? - You definitely have some impressive accomplishments….And more than a lot of presidents who manage to get reelected. My question is, is i…
> He has taken to blatantly and explicitly lying about simple verifiable facts, and doubling down on those lies when challenged. I'm not saying that's not true (I'm not a Trump supporter), but what sticks out to you as an instance of him doubling down on a lie? Edit: It's disappointing to be down voted rather than being directly engaged. If you have a beef with what I said, please tell me where I've erred. I would lo…
Start here: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/stateme... How about: * Lying about his past opposition to the Iraq war * Lying about Russia only hacking the DNC (they hacked the RNC too, or at least tried to, but didn't release anything) * Lying about the size of the crowd at his inauguration * Lying about his "historic" electoral win (it wasn't) * Lying about the election being rigged against him (…
> Lying about his past support for the Iraq war
Go watch his Howard Stern interview yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OU_Vrb_QXo. Listen at how indecisive he is for that question compared to the rest of the interview. It's wishy washy. It's hesitant. It's not a statement of support to call someone a liar over, unless you have an agenda.
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You mean softballs like: - Golf, what does it do for you? - How does your golf game hold up next to Tiger’s? - What has enchanted you the most from serving in this office? - In this fatherless world, where did you learn to love? - Are you ready to call yourself the ‘comeback kid’? - You definitely have some impressive accomplishments….And more than a lot of presidents who manage to get reelected. My question is, is i…
If that's all they could find after eight years in office, you're making the opposite point to the one you think you're making.