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Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

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Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

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post #171

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For non-professional sports I totally agree. It's a hobby.

What is the point of professional sports? The only benefit I can see is learning more about the human physique. But does that alone justify the scale and investment, or could that be had in cheaper ways?

Professionals get paid either to entertain or as part of an entry fee Ponzi scheme. The latter is what you see in Judo and Jiu Jitsu with the federations raking in the money.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#192
post #99

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Many races do have cash prizes. For a smaller race, it could be just a trophy, or a trophy plus something from a sponsor, but it could also be cash ($50-$100+ range).

I have to believe that most people can make $100 in much easier ways than running most of a marathon

This was a half marathon.

There was a famous example of cheating (using EPO) a few years ago.

"In that time [roughly two years, I think], he won nearly $40,000 in prize money in more than 75 races, including international competitions, United States championships and local road races."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/sports/runner-christian-he...

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#193
post #172

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That's an interesting perspective. I train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu with a bunch of guys that are on steroids and it doesn't bother me a bit. In my mind I just handicap myself vs their strength advantage so I'm happy with my relative performance.

What if one of them hurt you seriously, say causes paralysis? Would that be OK, because of course it could have happened anyway?

Heh. Actually I have a neck injury from a UFC fighter that was busted for doping. I don't blame him. He was just trying to keep his kids clothed and fed.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#194

I did this by accident before, at a 5K. I arrived to the race so late that when I crossed the starting line to BEGIN the race it registered that as my finish time and I'm posted on the result website as finishing in 2nd place.

Accidentally registering a false time (even accidentally cutting the course and claiming a prize, which would be more than you did) is very different to cutting the course and then cycling the route to falsify GPS records.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#195
post #20

Regardless of the cheating, this type of post doesn't fully sit right with me. Given the permanence of record on the internet, this does bring up the issue of how we police bad behavior, and how we incorporate forgiveness into that. That said, the poster was pretty fair, and generally refer to her as "the runner". It definitely reads as an obsessive sleuthing, no doubt in part because there were follow-on discoveries…

I commend your call to sympathy. I don't like taking a drive-by, salacious interest in a story that doesn't affect me in the least, but will probably have serious, perhaps devastating consequences for the person involved for a long time professionally. I also think it's worth pointing out that the original article, while using photos of the person involved, never uses their full name, so is to some extent not google-…

The problem with this argument in this case is that she put herself out in front of ‘the mob’. She actively promoted her ‘achievement’ to a public audience. Presumably she would have been happy for any level of adulation from the public. So when it turns around to public revulsion, that's just the other side of the sword, which she first actively employed.

I would have more sympathy for your argument if this story was about some form of private cheating. But this was cheating on a public stage, one that she particularly sought out.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#196
post #128

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Yes I agree. It went beyond proving the simple facts of the case, into attempts discredit the runner's character in other ways.

You mean by pointing out another race a few months ago where she ran another half-marathon but pictures show that someone else finished the race with her bib?

Yes, partly that. But more the part where he dredged through her Strava and found a random entry where the cadence and heart rate data looked odd compared to her description of the activity. That wasn't even for a race, just her training log.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#197
post #35

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What cheating are you referring to in professional cycling? I only know of all the doping... a blog like this would have no effect on that.

And electric motors

Yes!
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