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Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by addicted »

serf wrote: post #57
agildehaus wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's hardly equivalent.

you're right. Trump should have just reduced the amount of chairs available and warned the folks he liked, like Obama did. Right? God forbid a president do something straight forward without making up reasons as to why it is a noble action. I agree it's wrong, but I'm not willing to give a pass to another president because he worded it differently and achieved the same ousting.

Are you comparing seats on a plane to seats in a press briefing room?

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

nappy-doo wrote: post #9
mtgentry wrote: post #6

Only the AP choose to not attend out of solidarity? Shame on ABC, CBS, and the rest.

In all fairness, did they know it happened? I'll reserve judgement.

The narrative from the New York Times and CNN claims that they did know. However, I was unable to find a statement from either Time Magazine or the Associated Press.

The issue is slightly confused by the fact that the New York Times newspaper was barred from entry, (which refers to itself as "The Times" in this article) while Time Magazine (of Time Inc/Time Warner, no relation to the New York Times) chose not to attend. CNN adds [1] that the Los Angeles Times was also barred from attendance.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-hous...

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

#104

Post by agildehaus »

serf wrote: post #57
agildehaus wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's hardly equivalent.

you're right. Trump should have just reduced the amount of chairs available and warned the folks he liked, like Obama did. Right? God forbid a president do something straight forward without making up reasons as to why it is a noble action. I agree it's wrong, but I'm not willing to give a pass to another president because he worded it differently and achieved the same ousting.

Obama wasn't president when this happened. This wasn't Air Force One they couldn't fly on. Limited space without the logistical capacity to bring in another plane seems a perfectly valid excuse to me.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

#106

Post by georgemcbay »

eterm wrote: post #71
yummyfajitas wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't recall the NYT, CNN or Politico refusing to attend when Obama kicked the Washington Times and NY Post out. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6156794&pag... Shame on them too?

I'll save everyone the click: It's a false equivalence. Three reporters (total) were dropped from a plane flight, once. Being held here by yummyfajitas as equivalent to barring whole organisations from a press conference.

Also this event occurred before Obama was President...

Not only are the practical aspects of the two situations different, but on top of that comparing the official actions of a sitting President versus those of a non-incumbent candidate make it even more falsely equivalent.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

#107

Post by thehardsphere »

ChicagoDave wrote: post #40

Well proof will come out in the mid-terms. Do most voters want this kind of leadership or not? Of course the GOP is going to contract voting rights as much as possible in the interim, so it's going to be a battle. Liberals don't vote. Will that change?

I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but liberals vote. There's just not enough of them to win Presidential elections decisively by themselves.

If you are a liberal, do not fall into the same trap the conservatives did after their loss in 2012. They believed that there was a Missing Conservative Voter Who Stayed Home, who could be won over if the party went further rightward. Ted Cruz bet his whole candidacy on that. Trump is proof that voter either isn’t real or isn't motivated by ideology.

I don't know what the Democrat version of Trump is going to be, but there will be space for one if you assume that there's Missing Liberal Voters Who Stayed Home and all you have to do is go further leftward to pick them up.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by bdalgaard »

mtgentry wrote: post #6

Only the AP choose to not attend out of solidarity? Shame on ABC, CBS, and the rest.

I just saw a video of Jake Tapper talking about reporters working together and possibly protesting the White House briefings and how not going doesn't necessarily solve the problem. He suggests that going to the briefings to ask tough questions is more important for the press to do than protesting by not going. I probably wouldn't have thought of it in these terms before hearing his interview, but I won't hold it against the other news organizations (as long as they are going and holding the white house accountable for this decision).

https://youtu.be/MRE7cfkKi60?t=3m45s

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

#110

Post by Jun8 »

The reporting on this is a bit hazy right now, according to CNN it was not a formal briefing but a "press gaggle" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_gaggle) and the CNN reporter was barred by a WH staffer because the organization's name "was not on the list" (http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/02/24/cnn-blocked-fr...).

This is a mostly symbolic gesture (these organizations still have their assigned seats in the room) but is very much against WH press tradition. Coupled with Trump's strong words at the Convention this is a sign for these organizations to tune down their criticism of the President.

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