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Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

#11

Post by trendia »

The way this is worded is weird:

Claim: "In Sweden there are a number of 'no-go zones' where criminality and gangs have taken over and where the emergency services do not dare to go."

Facts: No. In a report published in February 2016, the Swedish Police Authority identified 53 residential areas around the country that have become increasingly marred by crime, social unrest and insecurity. These places have been incorrectly labelled 'no-go zones'. What is true, however, is that in several of these areas the police have experienced difficulties fulfilling their duties; but it is not the case that the police do not go to them or that Swedish law does not apply there

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

#12

Post by koonsolo »

trendia wrote: post #11

The way this is worded is weird: Claim: "In Sweden there are a number of 'no-go zones' where criminality and gangs have taken over and where the emergency services do not dare to go." Facts: No. In a report published in February 2016, the Swedish Police Authority identified 53 residential areas around the country that have become increasingly marred by crime, social unrest and insecurity. These places have been incor…

Same as in Belgium then. They even throw stones at fire-fighters when they are doing their job. So nothing to worry about, right?

And I don't know if it is the same in Sweden, but you are not really politically allowed to say what kind of people live in those neighborhoods. So again, nothing to worry about.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

#13

Post by dagenleg »

tormeh wrote: post #10
GrumpyNl wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

thats all? see this list. https://www.rt.com/news/329243-sweden-migrant-stabbed-teenag... http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.3584/sex-s... http://www.independentsentinel.com/muslim-rapes-child-in-swe... http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/768980/Sweden-cover-up-m... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Swe... http://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/162-000-kom-till-sverige-5... https://ww…

Breitbart, RT etc. are obviously not valid sources.

I disagree. RT is very biased, but is fairly factual once you learn to ignore the bias. They do a lot of pretty impressive journalistic work, like frontline reporting. If you exclude it completely, you miss a big part of the picture.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

#14

Post by unwind »

trendia wrote: post #11

The way this is worded is weird: Claim: "In Sweden there are a number of 'no-go zones' where criminality and gangs have taken over and where the emergency services do not dare to go." Facts: No. In a report published in February 2016, the Swedish Police Authority identified 53 residential areas around the country that have become increasingly marred by crime, social unrest and insecurity. These places have been incor…

Yeah, I think the wording is unfortunate.

It's not the police who are labelling (or, more importantly, treating) these zones as "no go", that label has been applied by other parties, such as tabloid press.

Quite happy to see official sources at least trying to put the foot down regarding all this weirdness (I am Swedish).

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

#15

Post by ArmandGrillet »

trendia wrote: post #11

The way this is worded is weird: Claim: "In Sweden there are a number of 'no-go zones' where criminality and gangs have taken over and where the emergency services do not dare to go." Facts: No. In a report published in February 2016, the Swedish Police Authority identified 53 residential areas around the country that have become increasingly marred by crime, social unrest and insecurity. These places have been incor…

You have a few no-go zones in France, e.g. in the Northern districts of Marseille, where the police does not go except for big operations as it is too dangerous. It looks like it is not the case in Sweden as the police can still go everywhere, even if some districts are more dangerous than others.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

#17

Post by barking »

It's a bit simplistic to speak only about migrants.

In the case of Islamic terrorism, I've heard it commented that recruits come from the children of migrants rather than the migrants themselves. This certainly seemed to borne out by the London 7/7 bombers and the Charlie Hebdo attackers to name two cases.

Prison populations in western countries also seem to have disproportionate numbers of ethnic minorities.

I also heard that Canada refuses to break down crime figures by ethnicity/race as a matter of public policy. If that is true it seems that there is a fear that the figures might look bad for minorities.

In the interests of community harmony, authorities commonly seem to want to accentuate the positive and sweep any negativity under the rug.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

#18

Post by devwastaken »

leereeves wrote: post #9

I tried to separate recent crime statistics from the rest of the paper. Turns out there weren't many: the level [of lethal violence] in 2015 – when a total of 112 cases of lethal violence were reported – was higher than for many years. lethal violence using firearms has increased within the context of criminal conflicts. The number of confirmed or suspected shootings was 20 per cent higher in 2014 than in 2006. The s…

>The number of reported rapes in Sweden has risen

This part atleast, as explained to me, is because rape has a much wider statistical definition. All sexual assault supposedly is classified under it, penetration not required.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

#19

Post by [deleted] »

dagenleg wrote: post #13
tormeh wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Breitbart, RT etc. are obviously not valid sources.

I disagree. RT is very biased, but is fairly factual once you learn to ignore the bias. They do a lot of pretty impressive journalistic work, like frontline reporting. If you exclude it completely, you miss a big part of the picture.

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Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Post by [deleted] »

devwastaken wrote: post #18
leereeves wrote: post #9

I tried to separate recent crime statistics from the rest of the paper. Turns out there weren't many: the level [of lethal violence] in 2015 – when a total of 112 cases of lethal violence were reported – was higher than for many years. lethal violence using firearms has increased within the context of criminal conflicts. The number of confirmed or suspected shootings was 20 per cent higher in 2014 than in 2006. The s…

>The number of reported rapes in Sweden has risen This part atleast, as explained to me, is because rape has a much wider statistical definition. All sexual assault supposedly is classified under it, penetration not required.

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