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Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#201
Cell phones often have 4G connections but if they're on wifi or laptops on wifi, we could collect the IPs of all airports and present the travel mode by default.

Phones could use GPS to detect when their in/near airports and inject an X-Travel-Mode cookie into HTTP requests.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#202

I'm curious about a couple of things: 1. I far as I understand there is legal precedent establishing that electronic devices are basically the same as suitcases, and both can be searched at the border (i.e. in the same way that border agents can rummage through a backpack looking for drugs, they can rummage through a laptop's hard drive looking for evidence of drug dealing). The key idea is that objects brought acros…

> Obviously all bets are off for non-citizens. Why shouldn't non-citizens be protected by The Constitution? Not a lawyer, but these came up pretty quick in a Google search. "It is well established that, if an alien is a lawful permanent resident of the United States and remains physically present there, he is a person within the protection of the Fifth Amendment. He may not be deprived of his life, liberty or propert…

The difference is that non-citizens don't have a right to enter the US, so while they can't be compelled to share their personal information, they can "voluntarily" choose whether to share it and enter the US, or go back.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#203
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fine for US citizens entering the US, but any 'travel mode' needs to work for the outbound trip too. If the country you're visiting has adopted a US-style border stance, then you're in no better a position than a non-US citizen visiting the US: the border forces of that other country can detain you until travel mode expires if they want. It seems like "They can't hold me for days while they wait for the mode t…

More likely they'd just send you home. Either way, denying people entry is bad for business and tourism. If enough people want to protect their accounts when they travel, countries will have to weigh the trade-offs.

Sure, it is bad for business. It will likely be used disproportionately on brown people and minorities, just like "random" screenings at the airport. Yes, bad for tourism, but only consistently bad for a minority of the population and most others just have to take of their shoes etc.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#204
Delete your 'social media' accounts. I'm talking Facebook, LinkedIn, G+ and so on.

I did that and life goes on perfectly - I don't miss them a bit and I don't think anyone noticed.

My wife and daughter are right here at home, I use Skype, Whatsapp or Slack to talk to my friends and colleagues.

So there is nothing that's missing.

Social networks are brainwashing farms (yes, advertising is a form of brainwashing) so stay away from them.

I don't want to sound too negative, but we all sense it: tough times are coming and these accounts will become a liability, even if you have 'nothing to hide'.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Relying on dysfunctional communication between portions of government doesn't seem like a sustainable strategy.

It's not dysfunctional communication, it's legally mandated boundaries enforced by an independent judiciary. Don't cede the thing you're fighting for.

> It's not dysfunctional communication, it's legally mandated boundaries enforced by an independent judiciary.

Do you really think that wouldn't dissolve in the face of "we already have the information, we're just improving communication between government organizations"? They shouldn't collect the information in the first place.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#206

Delete your 'social media' accounts. I'm talking Facebook, LinkedIn, G+ and so on. I did that and life goes on perfectly - I don't miss them a bit and I don't think anyone noticed. My wife and daughter are right here at home, I use Skype, Whatsapp or Slack to talk to my friends and colleagues. So there is nothing that's missing. Social networks are brainwashing farms (yes, advertising is a form of brainwashing) so st…

tough times are coming and these accounts will become a liability, even if you have 'nothing to hide'

That looks like a major chilling effect[1], and it makes life that much easier for those instigating the toughness.

It's not obvious to me, therefore, that opting out now is the right choice.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#207
post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Obviously all bets are off for non-citizens. Why shouldn't non-citizens be protected by The Constitution? Not a lawyer, but these came up pretty quick in a Google search. "It is well established that, if an alien is a lawful permanent resident of the United States and remains physically present there, he is a person within the protection of the Fifth Amendment. He may not be deprived of his life, liberty or propert…

The difference is that non-citizens don't have a right to enter the US, so while they can't be compelled to share their personal information, they can "voluntarily" choose whether to share it and enter the US, or go back.

> non-citizens don't have a right to enter the US... Here's where I take issue, by obtaining a visa to enter the US for work/ travel you go through security checks and you were deemed safe/ not a terrorist. So what changed from when you were issued a visa to when you landed in the states?

For me, this feels like China all over again. If requesting passwords becomes prevalent in the US, then the same precautions that travelers take when entering China will become the norm from the US.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#208

Delete your 'social media' accounts. I'm talking Facebook, LinkedIn, G+ and so on. I did that and life goes on perfectly - I don't miss them a bit and I don't think anyone noticed. My wife and daughter are right here at home, I use Skype, Whatsapp or Slack to talk to my friends and colleagues. So there is nothing that's missing. Social networks are brainwashing farms (yes, advertising is a form of brainwashing) so st…

Thanks for your advice, but if all I wanted was to chat and see people that are "right here at home," I wouldn't be on social media in the first place. It actually provides value to me beyond that, and yes, I would miss aspects of it :/

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#209
post #86

Nice idea. But it's treating the symptom rather than the root problem.

The root problem is terrorists wanting to kill people.

That's not a good excuse for denying ordinary people of their basic rights. There will always be killers anytime, anywhere.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#210
Would basic geoblocking help? A setting that says this account cannot be accessed outside your home country? Has the plausible deniability of "security". VPNs can also be effectively blocked if the same lists Netflix etc subscribe to are used.
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