Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

marathoninvestigation.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

61–70 of 197 posts

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#61

Post by DanBC »

skrebbel wrote: post #59
DanBC wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author has another blog post to explain who s/he writes about: http://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2016/05/the-differerenc... > The overall feedback I have received from the public regarding my work on the blog and the Boston reviews has been positive. (At some point I will try to clarify the review and filtering process - but runners that just had a bad day in Boston, or paced a friend, or just took their time,…

> I agree that now she's come clean any identifying information should be removed. How?

Ah, yes, that's a good point. Once it's on the internet it's there forever.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#62

Post by ajeet_dhaliwal »

I know nothing about running and this post was like looking into a whole world I did not know existed, all of this tech used in something as basic as running, so many opportunities for entrepreneurs in every aspect of life. Every one lives in their own world, some people wonder why gamers like to finish all side quests in a game, others may wonder why someone cares about running marathons so much, using all this tech, but most interestingly of all, the lengths someone would go to cheat in a run, and the lengths someone would go to uncover it all. The apology on instagram if real is a bit lame.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#63

Post by fpig »

DanBC wrote: post #44
fergie wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thirded. It can be really easy to make navigational errors in amateur races, especially with turnaround points. Usually there is no crowd lining the whole course, signage is bad, and the marshalling can be spotty. Yes, this person is a bit narcissistic and a tad dishonest, but it might just have been easier to go along with the misunderstanding rather than fess up to messing up. EDIT: OK, OK, "very dishonest" then. M…

The author has another blog post to explain who s/he writes about: http://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2016/05/the-differerenc... > The overall feedback I have received from the public regarding my work on the blog and the Boston reviews has been positive. (At some point I will try to clarify the review and filtering process - but runners that just had a bad day in Boston, or paced a friend, or just took their time,…

> I agree that now she's come clean any identifying information should be removed.

The media is running this story with full personal information included, this stuff is the first google hit for her name and several more on the first page of results. Google's "summary" of her on the right side when you google her name describes this event and contains nothing else.

The point at which she could have prevented this is when she was caught the first time, now it's too late.

It is not possible to prove a person who got second place in a public event was a cheater and prevent their identity from coming out. Even if the blogger hadn't posted her pictures, she would have been identified quickly.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#64

Post by arjie »

wapz wrote: post #35
erdojo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's value in the blog above and beyond outing the occasional cheater. It makes people think twice. It prevents cheating from being normalized, like what happened in professional cycling. It also reminds society that a great number of us still value honesty and integrity, and believe that hard work should be rewarded justly. Too many people today say/do something bad and think a "heartfelt" apology will wash it al…

What cheating are you referring to in professional cycling? I only know of all the doping... a blog like this would have no effect on that.

The water bottle thing. The sticky bottle.

That's just one thing. I bet there's more.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#65

Post by [deleted] »

wapz wrote: post #35
erdojo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's value in the blog above and beyond outing the occasional cheater. It makes people think twice. It prevents cheating from being normalized, like what happened in professional cycling. It also reminds society that a great number of us still value honesty and integrity, and believe that hard work should be rewarded justly. Too many people today say/do something bad and think a "heartfelt" apology will wash it al…

What cheating are you referring to in professional cycling? I only know of all the doping... a blog like this would have no effect on that.

[deleted]

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#66

Post by timdaub »

gabemart wrote: post #25
npunt wrote: post #20

Regardless of the cheating, this type of post doesn't fully sit right with me. Given the permanence of record on the internet, this does bring up the issue of how we police bad behavior, and how we incorporate forgiveness into that. That said, the poster was pretty fair, and generally refer to her as "the runner". It definitely reads as an obsessive sleuthing, no doubt in part because there were follow-on discoveries…

I commend your call to sympathy. I don't like taking a drive-by, salacious interest in a story that doesn't affect me in the least, but will probably have serious, perhaps devastating consequences for the person involved for a long time professionally. I also think it's worth pointing out that the original article, while using photos of the person involved, never uses their full name, so is to some extent not google-…

> while using photos of the person involved, never uses their full name, so is to some extent not google-able

Wat?

Clearly her name is exposed in the Strava screenshot. Took me exactly 2mins to find significant details about her in the blog post (also: if not, you can easily reverse-image-search her runner photos).

It's great to have her disqualified from the race, she clearly cheated.

Putting the whole story on the internet without worrying about her identity being exposed. Why? Is this really what you deserve when you cheat at a half-marathon?

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#67

Post by aaron695 »

risingintonatio wrote: post #55

What exactly is the point of this post? I second the opinion that this shouldn't be on HN. It's just doxxing the poor girl.

HN should never dox people.

HN shouldn't approve of articles doxxing.

But I don't think hiding from things happening on the internet is the HN way.

Upvoting an article means it's interesting, not that you agree with the views necessarily.

This is certainly an article from a site that uses mob justice. And like most mob justice about something pretty silly, it's more about getting outraged and getting to pick on someone.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#68

Post by Dowwie »

I am not of the few vocal minority here who sympathizes with the person who cheated. Marathons are shared, sacred experiences organized by a community of volunteers. The marathoninvestigation.com author is protecting that which is sacred and shared among the running community. That is a noble cause and worth commending.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#69

Post by vermontdevil »

wapz wrote: post #35
erdojo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's value in the blog above and beyond outing the occasional cheater. It makes people think twice. It prevents cheating from being normalized, like what happened in professional cycling. It also reminds society that a great number of us still value honesty and integrity, and believe that hard work should be rewarded justly. Too many people today say/do something bad and think a "heartfelt" apology will wash it al…

What cheating are you referring to in professional cycling? I only know of all the doping... a blog like this would have no effect on that.

And electric motors

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

#70

Post by canuckintime »

wapz wrote: post #30
nl wrote: post #24

A much more interesting "marathon cheating" story: http://time.com/3822577/rosie-ruiz-history/ Also related to Boston: http://www.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/dozens-suspected...

I didn't find this one as interesting. She took the subway and popped out for the last mile. The half marathon we got a lot of info about the pace, cadence, and heartrate that the runner herself submitted.

Try this one, the 'Marathon Man': http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/08/06/marathon-man
Post reply on HN