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Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

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Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

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Post by npunt »

wapz wrote: post #30
nl wrote: post #24

A much more interesting "marathon cheating" story: http://time.com/3822577/rosie-ruiz-history/ Also related to Boston: http://www.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/dozens-suspected...

I didn't find this one as interesting. She took the subway and popped out for the last mile. The half marathon we got a lot of info about the pace, cadence, and heartrate that the runner herself submitted.

I think the interesting bit is this:

> And while Ruiz never faced criminal consequences for faking her race finishes, she later ran afoul of the law for unrelated reasons. In 1982, she was charged with stealing $60,000 from the realty company she worked for, and in 1983 she was arrested for selling two kilos of cocaine to an undercover detective, per the AP.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

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Post by seesomesense »

npunt wrote: post #20

Regardless of the cheating, this type of post doesn't fully sit right with me. Given the permanence of record on the internet, this does bring up the issue of how we police bad behavior, and how we incorporate forgiveness into that. That said, the poster was pretty fair, and generally refer to her as "the runner". It definitely reads as an obsessive sleuthing, no doubt in part because there were follow-on discoveries…

The runner is a journalist for Huffington Post. I wonder how many of her articles are faked....

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

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Post by ycombinete »

angry-hacker wrote: post #26
creo wrote: post #23

Publicly shaming people for money is not right way for holding the true, athletic, fair-play spirit of running. While his work and methods are outstanding, it's still ethical burden to ask for donations just to humiliate wrongdoers. Don't get me wrong, i'm a runner myself and i'm all about reporting, but making it opportunistic just doesn't feel right for me.

Why do you think this is public shaming? If so, majority of newspapers are about public shaming. It's actually decent investigation here.

A common answer to this is that news papers are, ostensibly, "public interest shamers". That's the defense.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

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Post by wapz »

erdojo wrote: post #17
bykovich wrote: post #2

Reserving a domain to publish this "investigation" seems unnecessary and somewhat troubling -- as does the extent of the investigation itself. EDIT: I was mistaken -- this site is dedicated to ratting out cheating runners. Whatever floats your boat, I suppose.

There's value in the blog above and beyond outing the occasional cheater. It makes people think twice. It prevents cheating from being normalized, like what happened in professional cycling. It also reminds society that a great number of us still value honesty and integrity, and believe that hard work should be rewarded justly. Too many people today say/do something bad and think a "heartfelt" apology will wash it al…

What cheating are you referring to in professional cycling? I only know of all the doping... a blog like this would have no effect on that.

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

metaphor wrote: post #14
dangrossman wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a 215x180 color LCD, not e-ink.

Thanks for point that out. Edge crispness, lack of glare, and broad daylight contrast of the display was really throwing me off.

These are "reflective" LCD displays, where there is a one-way mirror between the LCD and backlight. In daylight, the backlight is actually off and the display is illuminated by the light around you. Pretty common e.g. on all sorts of boating displays (GPS/Radar/Sonar/etc.).

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

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Post by wingerlang »

npunt wrote: post #20

Regardless of the cheating, this type of post doesn't fully sit right with me. Given the permanence of record on the internet, this does bring up the issue of how we police bad behavior, and how we incorporate forgiveness into that. That said, the poster was pretty fair, and generally refer to her as "the runner". It definitely reads as an obsessive sleuthing, no doubt in part because there were follow-on discoveries…

> It definitely reads as an obsessive sleuthing

The whole blog (business?) is about identifying cheaters in marathons. Just in case you missed it (I only noticed the second time I went to the page).

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

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Post by hive_mind »

rdtsc wrote: post #8

Why? What drives people to do it? Is there money on the line? sponsorships for products. It obviously wasn't just a momentary weakness it was an elaborate plan and for what to brag about it at work or on Instagram? But wouldn't she know she cheated every time she thought or talked about it. That would be hard thing to live with it seems Edit: wonder how I'd feel if a friend or co-worker did this. I could see it creat…

She's a Harvard grad.

Lots of over achievement in her short life.

Gotta keep appearances up. Gotta keep the family and friends impressed. And so on...

Re: Runner Disqualified After Claiming 2nd Place in Fort Lauderdale Half Marathon

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Post by creo »

angry-hacker wrote: post #26
creo wrote: post #23

Publicly shaming people for money is not right way for holding the true, athletic, fair-play spirit of running. While his work and methods are outstanding, it's still ethical burden to ask for donations just to humiliate wrongdoers. Don't get me wrong, i'm a runner myself and i'm all about reporting, but making it opportunistic just doesn't feel right for me.

Why do you think this is public shaming? If so, majority of newspapers are about public shaming. It's actually decent investigation here.

It's made public so people can discus and judge. Problem with this approach is that it will not only shame, but also mark a target for offenders, so it's not only adjudication, it's a act of aggression. Think about police investigators. Why are they not publishing full names and faces of criminals?

EDIT On second thought, public shaming is consequence of something more important. If race officials would pay for reporting legitimate offences there wouldn't be a need to ask for donations. So author could keep those investigations hidden.

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