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4k at 60fps is 498 million pixels per second, Rift @ 90FPS is 233 million pixels per second. GPU's can deal with making 2 images without meaningful CPU overhead. The real issue is stutter and latency not CPU or GPU GFLOPS.
We're talking about draw calls on the CPU, not pixel fill. Still wrong about Rift vs 4K though. Due to the lens unwarping you have to render to a much larger render target to get native screen res. About 1.7x more pixels than he native res. > GPU's can deal with making 2 images without meaningful CPU overhead. I meant to say that with this "There are some optimizations to reduce the per-eye overhead, but it is still…
AMD Ryzen price and release date revealed
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Re: AMD Ryzen price and release date revealed
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless I'm sorely mistaken, Intel's single-core performance was ways ahead of Bulldozer chips.
True, but the price is a huge differentiator. The primary market for processors is gaming where the bottleneck is generally your GPU and memory. As a software developer, the difference between the two is not noticeable IMO.
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just be aware that Ryzen is probably operating much closer to it's limit than the Intel counterparts, so overclocking could be limited. If that is not interesting for you anyway, then god speed. Also in terms of gaming performance, Intel will probably remain king, due to single threaded performance and OC potential. Personally, i'd always take 8 cores vs 4 for the same price even if they are 10-20% slower.
In my experience, most modern games aren't CPU-bound anymore; more and more work is being pushed onto the GPU with every generation. My brother has a quad-core AMD CPU (don't remember which) with a powerful GPU, and his CPU is very rarely the bottleneck—there are few games he can't max out at 1080. Also, according to AMD's benchmarks, the Ryzen CPUs are very close to Intel's in single-threaded performance.
Another thing is that many enthusiasts nowadays go for high refresh rate monitors and at 1080p/1440p you can still be CPU bottlenecked if you are shooting for >144FPS on a 144Hz screen.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
just be aware that Ryzen is probably operating much closer to it's limit than the Intel counterparts, so overclocking could be limited. If that is not interesting for you anyway, then god speed. Also in terms of gaming performance, Intel will probably remain king, due to single threaded performance and OC potential. Personally, i'd always take 8 cores vs 4 for the same price even if they are 10-20% slower.
All the info shows otherwise. This shows ryzen overclocking to 5.1GHz on all cores and beating Cinebench world record. http://mirror.ninja/5vixv8 PS: mirror since it was removed from YouTube.
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All the info shows otherwise. This shows ryzen overclocking to 5.1GHz on all cores and beating Cinebench world record. http://mirror.ninja/5vixv8 PS: mirror since it was removed from YouTube.
*With liquid nitrogen cooling. We still don't have a real-world test.
My personal opinion is to wait for more data, march 2 is not far away. For sure anandtech and the other good bench sites will have a Perf/$ graph.
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"Why not 80% of the price of the comparable Intel part?" 1. Because Intel is about to significantly drop their prices in response to Ryzen. 2. Because AMD really wants to immediately hurt Intel's revenues as badly as possible. 3. Because AMD has such an uphill battle to regain mind share that it really needs to release a product that makes people realize that AMD now has the superior perf/$ product, beyond any doubt…
3bis now Intel looks like a customer milking company with mild progress posturing as 'best effort'.
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3bis now Intel looks like a customer milking company with mild progress posturing as 'best effort'.
I am pretty sure after six iterations of "more of the same" most people realized this by now, we didn't need amd to know this, but surely to change the status quo in the cpu market...
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Feature parity and market penetration. FP and AVX are middling, no iGPU, fewer PCIe lanes, and they've got keep firm hold of that budget build bracket. In case you were also wondering why Intel's pricing has been so obscene, it's to do with AMD's underwhelming pre-Zen microarchitectures and having had no serious competition in the past decade until now.
do we think Intel will drastically drop prices on middle and high end chips?
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Again, the 6900K is a two years old µarch, and not one which was considered a great release in the first place. The 1700X will not be competing against the 6900K because nobody gives a rat's ass about the 6900K, the 1700X will be competing against the 7700K and its ilk.
Kaby Lake and Skylake are indistinguishable in terms of IPC. Kaby Lake only brought GPU & video decoding improvements to the table, that's it. CPU performance is otherwise identical to Skylake.
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Re: AMD Ryzen price and release date revealed
#130I think the low TDPs have to be the scariest thing for Intel. Really interested to see what they can do in the 15-25W range for notebooks and their server stuff.