You would simply be forced to turn off travel mode. And don't lie to the border agent and say it's not on.
Social Media Needs a Travel Mode
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Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode
#142To be effective, this would need to become a kind of norm for overseas travelers, the same way traveler's checks used to be. The idea would be that just as you don't carry a bag with your birth certificate, stock certificates, property titles, and jewelry with you, you also don't carry a 10 year archive of every email you've ever sent or a detailed list of every person you've ever spoken to. In particular, it needs t…
> I think it's crazy that people walk around with phones that have access to years of email communications
Why? I thought the whole point of connected, portable computers is for one to have access to pretty much all their data on the go.
Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey, you have any easy solution: never ever visit the US. The overwhelming majority of non-citizens passing through the border are on some kind of temporary visit, so it's relatively easy to choose to stay the hell away.
That's a very defeatist position (not to mention that this policy is emulated, or will be soon emulated by many other countries). Isolationisms won't help neither the political situation in the world at large, nor the situation in the US right now. The US is a great place to visit, a great place to do business in, and a great place to live in. Not to mention that many, many people that are affected by this policy are…
Perhaps, but sometimes the realistic option is to admit that you have been defeated, and choose to play a different game instead.
The choice faced by travellers to the US is essentially the same as that faced by all consumers of a product declining in quality: Voice, or Exit.
Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd turn this feature on my phone right now for gmail just for "lost phone" mitigation.
The problem with that is that CBP can (and surely soon will) compel travelers to log into their accounts from CBP's own equipment.
Sure. But a setting that said "always on mobile" and another one where they schedule it for me based on my airline emails makes uptake faster.
And I want that when I'm traveling anywhere.
[later] we want to normalize the idea that access permission to our data is context aware based on what we are doing. To me this is true independent of border crossings. For instance there are things I want in the cloud for backup purposes that I don't want be able to access from anywhere but home normally.
Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode
#145To be effective, this would need to become a kind of norm for overseas travelers, the same way traveler's checks used to be. The idea would be that just as you don't carry a bag with your birth certificate, stock certificates, property titles, and jewelry with you, you also don't carry a 10 year archive of every email you've ever sent or a detailed list of every person you've ever spoken to. In particular, it needs t…
> I think it's crazy that people walk around with phones that have access to years of email communications You think its crazy in you wish you (and everyone else) had a viable alternative? Or, you think its crazy in that you do something else that others don't do? If the latter, what do you do?
I have tar files of old maildirs, but they're encrypted and backed up and not readily accessible. My regular mail client has access to a smaller set of mails. Of course this requires an email setup that allows such easy bulk operations, which gmail isn't really.
Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe the surveillance economy can send a diff or two? https://boingboing.net/2016/11/13/the-surveillance-economy-h... I fell strange linking to your own warning...
The surveillance economy is not a magic thing that sees all, though. What's the specific way in which third parties end up with my email and private Facebook data?
Sorry, I don't use Facebook, and I applaud the initiative (as I understand it, it's about limiting the exposure).
I just think that the use of a such a travel mode could be likened to/misconstrued as the practice (perilous, as you indicate), of using a decoy account, given for example, some previous snapshots of any public/semipublic social media activity suddenly invisible for the border agents.
Just trying to get a clearer view of your proposition (I think I'm doing it, thanks for answering!)
Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode
#147To be effective, this would need to become a kind of norm for overseas travelers, the same way traveler's checks used to be. The idea would be that just as you don't carry a bag with your birth certificate, stock certificates, property titles, and jewelry with you, you also don't carry a 10 year archive of every email you've ever sent or a detailed list of every person you've ever spoken to. In particular, it needs t…
> I think it's crazy that people walk around with phones that have access to years of email communications The one anti-pattern on every website is using your primary email address for both notifications and password resets. There is zero reason why you'd ever want an email address you have authed on your phone to handle Facebook/Twitter password resets, but the only way to avoid this is if you're willing to give up…
You can set a filter to only forward certain notifications.
Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode
#148You would simply be forced to turn off travel mode. And don't lie to the border agent and say it's not on.
Please read the entire post.
Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
Note that CBP does not have access to all the data NSA has gathered. If they did, we wouldn't be talking about this at all; they'd already have everything they wanted.
Relying on dysfunctional communication between portions of government doesn't seem like a sustainable strategy.
It's not dysfunctional communication, it's legally mandated boundaries enforced by an independent judiciary.
Don't cede the thing you're fighting for.
Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode
#150To be effective, this would need to become a kind of norm for overseas travelers, the same way traveler's checks used to be. The idea would be that just as you don't carry a bag with your birth certificate, stock certificates, property titles, and jewelry with you, you also don't carry a 10 year archive of every email you've ever sent or a detailed list of every person you've ever spoken to. In particular, it needs t…
>>In particular, it needs to be normal enough that a significant fraction of all travelers do it. Yes, exactly. Border agents are trained to look for anything out of the ordinary. Currently, using a feature like this would immediately raise a huge red flag and encourage more questioning, detention and possibly even deportation based on the person's country of origin and the mood of the border agent. Incidentally, tha…
Why wouldn't it be marketed as a feature for leaving the country, not returning? There's a very reasonable case to be made that other countries have substantially worse privacy protections than the US does. Whether or not that's true is a separate conversation, but for the purposes of the border conversation about why you've enabled it, blaming the lack of Constitutional protection in foreign countries seems like a good approach to me.