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Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#101

Post by x0x0 »

idlewords wrote: post #49
tacostakohashi wrote: post #19

This is completely naive. Firstly, social media's only incentive is to make your data as widely available as possible (in the interests of ad revenue), and maintain a good relationship with the government in their jurisdiction. Every other existing "privacy" setting on Facebook, LinkedIn, etc is already obfuscated to the point of unusability, for this reason, and "travel mode" would be no different. Secondly, lets im…

People who care deeply about these issues work at Facebook and Google.

They don't seem to be in positions of any authority though -- see eg realnames. Or maybe this is enough of a threat to the core business for them to care?

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#102

Post by idlewords »

Gracana wrote: post #96
idlewords wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who care deeply about these issues work at Facebook and Google.

That's a statement that's true for all sorts of issues, for all sorts of people, at all sorts of places. But what matters is whether their employer has made them responsible for solving those issues. What are they paid to do?

They can do whatever they want to do, including organize, work to rule, walk out, or go on strike.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Post by hd4 »

This may be a hugely naive question but what could they do if I simply don't use social media?

Do they automatically suspect someone who denies using it and what would follow in that event?

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#104

Post by tptacek »

hd4 wrote: post #103

This may be a hugely naive question but what could they do if I simply don't use social media? Do they automatically suspect someone who denies using it and what would follow in that event?

If you legit don't have a Facebook account, you're fine. The problem is that most people do have them, and it's an extremely bad idea to try to sneak them past CBP.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#105

Post by idlewords »

x0x0 wrote: post #101
idlewords wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who care deeply about these issues work at Facebook and Google.

They don't seem to be in positions of any authority though -- see eg realnames. Or maybe this is enough of a threat to the core business for them to care?

This is the problem that trade unions solve.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#106

Post by kefka »

(Read on the screen)

"$Company noticed an intrusion by the US Federal Agents, Border Guards, and have marked this as a compromised account. Please have your designated friend, if set, to authenticate your account."

Its now out of the persons sphere to fix, even if coerced. And companies can defend this by fact of an Acceptable Use Agreement violation itself is breaking a federal law: CFAA.

That, and it seems the only way to stop these issues now is to jam it up in legal limbo by citizens.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#107

Post by severine »

idlewords wrote: post #94
severine wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please clarify: I take your answer as a (fair) response to the first objection, but what about the other ( "third parties would just start capturing and storing posts while you have "travel mode" off, and sell that to CBP, or whoever else wants to pay for it" )? Does that possibility worry you? Wouldn't that also put you in a position where you’re lying at the border ? edit: readability

I'm not sure I understand that objection. How will a third party collect non-public information from my Facebook account, or my email?

Maybe the surveillance economy can send a diff or two?

https://boingboing.net/2016/11/13/the-surveillance-economy-h...

I fell strange linking to your own warning...

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Post by tptacek »

nodamage wrote: post #54
paulv wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: > To work effectively, a trip mode feature would need to be easy to turn on, configurable (so you can choose how long you want the protection turned on for) and irrevocable for an amount of time chosen by the user once it’s set. There’s no sense in having a ‘trip mode’ if the person demanding your password can simply switch it off, or coerce you into switching it off.

It doesn't even have to be a time lock, what if you left behind a key or random passcode at home that could be used to switch it off when you return?

The point is to make it impossible even for the owner to disable the lock, so there isn't even a conversation to be had about whether you're a phone call away from getting a family member, friend, or neighbor to read off the passcode to open access to the account.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#110

Post by idlewords »

maxerickson wrote: post #75
idlewords wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a real concern for non-citizens. US citizens can't be denied entry.

Right. I was assuming that was reasonably well understood.

I made the same assumption, until I published this article.
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