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Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#11
If they get your password can't they just turn of travle mode for you? Or wait until you do the same? I don't know that there is a technical answer here accept wiping your phone/laptop before you go through customes.

The real solution is a political one where we speak up and legeislate and litigate that the 4th amendment applies a the border.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#12
post #9

It's not like they couldn't make you turn travel mode off if they wanted to. How about pushing for a law closing this 4th amendment loophole at the borders, at least for citizens? Not that it'd do much. If the border agents really want to see one's social media accounts, I have zero doubt they can get that data from other government agencies. In fact, they probably already have it. It sounds to me like they're just t…

The idea is that they cannot in fact make you turn travel mode off, because travel mode doesn't turn off. It's a time lock. The point is that while locked, Facebook and Google Mail are still usable; they just don't have your whole history available on them.

If we stipulate that your second paragraph is true, then travel mode is in fact a complete countermeasure to that behavior. (I don't think it's true).

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#13
post #2

> We need a ‘trip mode' for social media sites that reduces our contact list and history to a minimal subset of what the site normally offers. Not only would such a feature protect people forced to give their passwords at the border, but it would mitigate the many additional threats to privacy they face when they use their social media accounts away from home. Border security officer: I see you have trip mode on. Tur…

Please read the entire post.

If you're referring to a configurable duration: setting an expiration doesn't work either. They'll just detain you for that length of time.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#14
post #12
post #9

It's not like they couldn't make you turn travel mode off if they wanted to. How about pushing for a law closing this 4th amendment loophole at the borders, at least for citizens? Not that it'd do much. If the border agents really want to see one's social media accounts, I have zero doubt they can get that data from other government agencies. In fact, they probably already have it. It sounds to me like they're just t…

The idea is that they cannot in fact make you turn travel mode off, because travel mode doesn't turn off. It's a time lock. The point is that while locked, Facebook and Google Mail are still usable; they just don't have your whole history available on them. If we stipulate that your second paragraph is true, then travel mode is in fact a complete countermeasure to that behavior. (I don't think it's true).

Why wouldn't they just detain you until the time runs out?

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#15
post #2

> We need a ‘trip mode' for social media sites that reduces our contact list and history to a minimal subset of what the site normally offers. Not only would such a feature protect people forced to give their passwords at the border, but it would mitigate the many additional threats to privacy they face when they use their social media accounts away from home. Border security officer: I see you have trip mode on. Tur…

Please read the entire post.

I understand, but their default response for "You've done something to hide information from us" isn't going to be "Oh well, we tried. On your way!"

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#16

If they get your password can't they just turn of travle mode for you? Or wait until you do the same? I don't know that there is a technical answer here accept wiping your phone/laptop before you go through customes. The real solution is a political one where we speak up and legeislate and litigate that the 4th amendment applies a the border.

From the article:

> To work effectively, a trip mode feature would need to be easy to turn on, configurable (so you can choose how long you want the protection turned on for) and irrevocable for an amount of time chosen by the user once it’s set. There’s no sense in having a ‘trip mode’ if the person demanding your password can simply switch it off, or coerce you into switching it off.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#17

If they get your password can't they just turn of travle mode for you? Or wait until you do the same? I don't know that there is a technical answer here accept wiping your phone/laptop before you go through customes. The real solution is a political one where we speak up and legeislate and litigate that the 4th amendment applies a the border.

This is addressed in the article: you say how long travel mode should last and once set it cannot be undone, even by the owner of the account.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#18

One thing I wonder about is how quickly a travel mode would become grounds for denial of entry.

Or how quickly Facebook/Google/Twitter would comply with some classified FBI/NSA directive to provide the data anyway. The first mistake is trusting these networks with your personal life in the first place. Nothing can erase that except your ability and willpower to keep your secrets to yourself.

Illegitimate government actions are sort of out of scope for this discussion though (which is about convincing companies to mitigate legitimate government actions).

As for your second point, there's no going back for an awful lot of people. And holding that aside, it's a sad world where using a computer to communicate is somehow a mistake.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#19
This is completely naive.

Firstly, social media's only incentive is to make your data as widely available as possible (in the interests of ad revenue), and maintain a good relationship with the government in their jurisdiction. Every other existing "privacy" setting on Facebook, LinkedIn, etc is already obfuscated to the point of unusability, for this reason, and "travel mode" would be no different.

Secondly, lets imagine that FB did implement a watertight "travel mode" that hid your embarrassing data effectively while you were travelling. Third parties would just start capturing and storing posts while you have "travel mode" off, and sell that to CBP, or whoever else wants to pay for it.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

#20
I feel it would be quite obvious looking at your device and it's lack of data that such a feature was in force and they would just deny you entry. Nice idea but the problems need fixed in law. IMO technical solutions are just temporary bandaids.
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