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Apple Park Opens to Employees in April

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Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

stuckagain wrote: post #95
Tiktaalik wrote: post #70

This building seems super wasteful landwise, but I guess it's in the sprawling silicon valley suburbs so no one really expects or cares about compactness or efficiency. It'll likely be arduous for someone to move from one part of the building to the other, but I suppose Apple employees don't typically need to do this that much. How long is the walk across the inner square by foot I wonder?

It is HUGELY wasteful. The statement "one of the most energy-efficient buildings in the world" is a prime example of obscuring the truth, as well. When considering full-system efficiency this is undoubtedly one of the most wasteful structures in the world. 12000 employees, 14000 parking spaces, and a 1-hour walk to the nearest point of mass tranportation (Lawrence Caltrain, which is poorly served; the more frequently…

I'm not familiar with the area. Is real estate in short supply?

Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April

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Post by yarou »

hkmurakami wrote: post #13

You can see it from a nearby hiking trail, Rancho San Antonio. It's really rather stunning. Also, I really appreciate whichever jurisdiction gave the go ahead and funded the expansion of the on/off ramps on Wolfe/280 (likely Cupertino?). The traffic in the area has become really miserable over the years and I'm hopeful that things are a bit better than the current De Anza Blvd situation.

De Anza is nightmare to drive; biking is also a fun adrenaline rush because you have to dodge traffic.

Vallco/Stevens Creek will probably become more congested as a result of the new campus opening.

Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April

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Post by DerekL »

stuckagain wrote: post #95
Tiktaalik wrote: post #70

This building seems super wasteful landwise, but I guess it's in the sprawling silicon valley suburbs so no one really expects or cares about compactness or efficiency. It'll likely be arduous for someone to move from one part of the building to the other, but I suppose Apple employees don't typically need to do this that much. How long is the walk across the inner square by foot I wonder?

It is HUGELY wasteful. The statement "one of the most energy-efficient buildings in the world" is a prime example of obscuring the truth, as well. When considering full-system efficiency this is undoubtedly one of the most wasteful structures in the world. 12000 employees, 14000 parking spaces, and a 1-hour walk to the nearest point of mass tranportation (Lawrence Caltrain, which is poorly served; the more frequently…

There are VTA buses. They come every 30 minutes, and it would take you about 30 minutes to get to the Sunnyvale Caltrain station.

Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April

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Post by curuinor »

HeyLaughingBoy wrote: post #111
stuckagain wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is HUGELY wasteful. The statement "one of the most energy-efficient buildings in the world" is a prime example of obscuring the truth, as well. When considering full-system efficiency this is undoubtedly one of the most wasteful structures in the world. 12000 employees, 14000 parking spaces, and a 1-hour walk to the nearest point of mass tranportation (Lawrence Caltrain, which is poorly served; the more frequently…

I'm not familiar with the area. Is real estate in short supply?

Among the most expensive suburban places on earth.

Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April

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Post by johansch »

johansch wrote: post #101
jagger27 wrote: post #14

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We do: https://www.apple.com/macbook/

The MBA is the perfect laptop for most people, except that the screen sucks. This made sense in 2011 - at that time good retina displays and good-enough low-powered GPUs (e.g. Intel integrated stuff) that could power them were expensive. Today they are not. Today Apple could launch a retina Macbook Air with the form factor and battery life that people love... with a great retina screen, for the same price, if they'd…

Instead of continuing Jobs's actions, Tim Cook has somehow decided that the best course of action for Apple is to transform into a luxuary brand, like LVMH (Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton).

Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April

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Post by stuckagain »

DerekL wrote: post #113
stuckagain wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is HUGELY wasteful. The statement "one of the most energy-efficient buildings in the world" is a prime example of obscuring the truth, as well. When considering full-system efficiency this is undoubtedly one of the most wasteful structures in the world. 12000 employees, 14000 parking spaces, and a 1-hour walk to the nearest point of mass tranportation (Lawrence Caltrain, which is poorly served; the more frequently…

There are VTA buses. They come every 30 minutes, and it would take you about 30 minutes to get to the Sunnyvale Caltrain station.

As far as I can tell from the schedule the minimum bus trip from this site to Sunnyvale Caltrain is 44 minutes, plus an average 10 minutes for headway. That assumes you did not start off on the east face of the UFO, in which case you should add a walk of up to a mile to get to the VTA stop on Wolfe.

Walking would be just about as fast.

Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April

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Post by Someone »

russellbeattie wrote: post #90

My only issue is that I bet the center of the building is going to be a complete waste and totally deserted except for employees occasionally taking a shortcut between sides (if the doors are set up to do that). The building is big (I drive by it regularly), but not so big to give the central area any sense of privacy, so when you walk out into it, you're going to sense that 12,000 eyes are watching you. I've been in…

In a building that size and with the California climate being what it is, _everybody_ will take those shortcuts. Also, inside the old Apple campus, I've seen people play frisbee on the lawns during lunch breaks.

This space also is large enough for bootcamp, yoga classes, etc, and enough people will work there to find people willing to take part in such activities.

They could even 'hide' a basketball court inside if they wanted (dig a one feet hole to hold the court; surround it by a 3 foot 'wall' for spectators to hang around on; add trees and shrubs for camouflage, and nobody will see it from inside the building)

Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April

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Post by johnhenry »

midgetjones wrote: post #108
johnhenry wrote: post #80

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I would argue that humans are not topologically equivalent to toruses as most humans have many holes beyond the alimentary canal.

Is a torus made of swiss cheese not still a torus?

... ... correct.

Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April

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Post by midgetjones »

johnhenry wrote: post #80
sangnoir wrote: post #71

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Reducing complex shapes to topology only muddies the discussion. The Pentagon and Apple HQ toruses. Humans are also toruses when you consider the alimentary canal!

I would argue that humans are not topologically equivalent to toruses as most humans have many holes beyond the alimentary canal.

I just want to point out verisimilitude's perfect response, without being too showy by responding directly[0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13707694

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