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Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by tiatia »

riprowan wrote: post #77
swang wrote: post #67

this is why i'm not completely 100% with google photos. i'm ready to spend the monthly fees to store all my pictures in its original resolution, use google photos to manage/search my photos. except i don't want to commit to using it and then finding out google doesn't want to support it and just dumps it. same thing with google voice. i use it but i've never committed to using it as my main phone number. maybe it's a…

I'm right there with you. Long term Google product user here (Android, Fi, Gmail, Drive, Photos, Etc) and I'm winding it all down, except gmail which will remain my spam-mailbox.

Gmail is shit. Gmail is Email Extraordinaire but if something goes wrong and you lose access, good luck gaining it back. Try to call somebody. This, and all the privacy issues.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by buro9 »

glebm wrote: post #120
buro9 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm going to start a new trend in web design. I'll call it 56k design. That was pretty much my criteria when I was making forum software: https://www.lfgss.com/ It's still too heavy and slow, and there's still some things I could do better. But that's nitpicking, it's pretty good and when I finish re-structuring all of the code it will be a single binary install for those who want to use it, or a split-binary Web-U…

We've built the Thredded forums engine ( https://thredded.org ) with the same goals in mind. The entire CSS is 10KiB, JavaScript loads asynchronously and is optional.

That's delightfully nice to use. Damn good job.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by dboreham »

d0vs wrote: post #93
Fej wrote: post #58

I wonder if it would be worth the money for Google to keep services like this one running, just so that people (especially enterprise customers) don't lose faith in Google's competency with regard to long-term product support. Although if you ask around here, you'd probably not find much faith for them to save.

I honestly don't think people outside the HN echo chamber care that much.

First, isn't the HN echo chamber actually an important constituency for Google if they want to sell to businesses? Second, I think once you get one of these "over my dead body" reactions going, it has to hurt business. Consider the lengths Microsoft has had to go to to try to overcome their negative reputation in the tech community.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by coldpie »

nattaylor wrote: post #118
swang wrote: post #67

this is why i'm not completely 100% with google photos. i'm ready to spend the monthly fees to store all my pictures in its original resolution, use google photos to manage/search my photos. except i don't want to commit to using it and then finding out google doesn't want to support it and just dumps it. same thing with google voice. i use it but i've never committed to using it as my main phone number. maybe it's a…

I'm betting that Google Photos will necessarily stick around in order to keep Android competitive with iOS (and perhaps Windows.) I desperately hope they make it a paid service, if needed, rather than shutter it. I've fully committed and have uploaded 40,932 photos. All of the automation has been amazing.

I'm not trying to be a dick and am genuinely curious. What are you going to do with those 41 thousand photos? Do you ever go back and look at them? I see lots of people taking a ton of photos, they get stored in the cloud automatically, and then... what? Does anybody ever go back and look at that bad photo of a fish they took at an aquarium five years ago?

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by overcast »

swang wrote: post #67

this is why i'm not completely 100% with google photos. i'm ready to spend the monthly fees to store all my pictures in its original resolution, use google photos to manage/search my photos. except i don't want to commit to using it and then finding out google doesn't want to support it and just dumps it. same thing with google voice. i use it but i've never committed to using it as my main phone number. maybe it's a…

Why not just use CaptureOne/LightRoom, and have encrypted offsite backups? Using a specific product to "store" pictures sounds silly.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by SnowingXIV »

swang wrote: post #67

this is why i'm not completely 100% with google photos. i'm ready to spend the monthly fees to store all my pictures in its original resolution, use google photos to manage/search my photos. except i don't want to commit to using it and then finding out google doesn't want to support it and just dumps it. same thing with google voice. i use it but i've never committed to using it as my main phone number. maybe it's a…

Gmail and Google Drive, my biggest ties. I can't see either of these going away, because like many mentioned these services are consumer based which Google seems to care about more. Well, I heavily use Adwords professionally and that support used to be pretty decent - though I feel it's gone downhill very quickly lately. Someone will answer your call but the expertise is lacking which is fine for your level 1 support but even their offshore "specialists" only seem to give cookie cutter optimization advice or the famous "add more money."

They've recently transitioned to this "beta" health checkup feature that gives the same advice except without people! It's automated and to be honest, it's even better than the support I was getting. This could view my stuff and if I was missing a critical component (I have a lot of ads running) it'll call it out.

I don't know what happened to Adwords but about a year ago, I had amazing onshore support and the person listened to business case scenarios and we would have discussions on possible strategies and ways to save money but be more effective.

I would love to be a fly on the wall on some of these higher up Google exec meetings on where they switch priority on a dime.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by galuano1 »

vinceguidry wrote: post #105
ancarda wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Problem is, people on HN are making decisions and building tools and startups. If everyone loses faith in Google, we'll stop using their platforms and tools which translates to loss of money. The only example I can give is at my day job, I built a backup system that uses Azure blob storage because I actually trust Microsoft more than Google. I wonder how many other people have a "anyone but Google" approach? It's not…

The HN crowd is absolutely tiny , compared to the entire development ecosystem. And a lot of us aren't even shot-callers.

This. Most corps with Deep pockets already have a big team on procurement, and I have no say in what tools I am allowed to use to get my job done. All those stuff is already decided. I may go and say, "Hey, have you seen this, it's better than X", and that will not yield anything at all.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by jjnoakes »

overcast wrote: post #125
swang wrote: post #67

this is why i'm not completely 100% with google photos. i'm ready to spend the monthly fees to store all my pictures in its original resolution, use google photos to manage/search my photos. except i don't want to commit to using it and then finding out google doesn't want to support it and just dumps it. same thing with google voice. i use it but i've never committed to using it as my main phone number. maybe it's a…

Why not just use CaptureOne/LightRoom, and have encrypted offsite backups? Using a specific product to "store" pictures sounds silly.

I can't speak for the person you replied to, but I rely on a product to "store" pictures so I can access them when I'm not at my main computer. I'd like to show them to others using my phone, share them with other computers (like my wife's) so she can edit some, or add to the collections, and they are also accessible to the machines hosting my web sites, so that others can browse the ones I choose to publish.

Encrypted backups are great for recovery, but they don't address many other useful features of these additional products.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by jjnoakes »

coldpie wrote: post #124
nattaylor wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm betting that Google Photos will necessarily stick around in order to keep Android competitive with iOS (and perhaps Windows.) I desperately hope they make it a paid service, if needed, rather than shutter it. I've fully committed and have uploaded 40,932 photos. All of the automation has been amazing.

I'm not trying to be a dick and am genuinely curious. What are you going to do with those 41 thousand photos? Do you ever go back and look at them? I see lots of people taking a ton of photos, they get stored in the cloud automatically, and then... what? Does anybody ever go back and look at that bad photo of a fish they took at an aquarium five years ago?

I find a nice way to be reminded of some memories is to have random pictures show up as my desktop or phone background once in a while.

I also go back through them and pull out some for use during big lifetime events (10*n birthdays, weddings, retirement, etc).

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by driverdan »

d0vs wrote: post #93
Fej wrote: post #58

I wonder if it would be worth the money for Google to keep services like this one running, just so that people (especially enterprise customers) don't lose faith in Google's competency with regard to long-term product support. Although if you ask around here, you'd probably not find much faith for them to save.

I honestly don't think people outside the HN echo chamber care that much.

Except Site Search is primarily used by non-technical people. It's widely used on forums and common on WordPress sites.
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