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Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

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My first (and last) visit to the US (6-7 years back), at the port of entry:

...Before the US trip, I was tired from 2 other trips and had very little sleep. Please note the words below may not be exact, but representational...

Officer: some questions...

Me: some answers....

Officer: "Are you carrying any banned substances?"

Me: "No, just regular stuff"

Officer: "Is it banned?"

Me: (confused) "No"

[At this point I was perplexed at why she was asking this question. I was carrying two packets of packaged food items - was it banned? I didn't know]

Officer - doing something on the computer

Me - Just waiting(standing)

Officer: "Sir, how long are you going to stay?"

Me: "My work will be done in 2 weeks"

..pause.. I realized they would stamp an exit date...

"But this is my first trip to the US. I would like to have a couple of weeks extra so that I can visit some places around and meet up an old friend"

Officer: "So you don't know how long you are going to stay"

Me: "I didn't say that"

Officer: "First you said 2 weeks, and now you are saying a few more"

Me: "Sorry for the confusion. I'd like to stay for a month, my official work would be done in first 2 weeks"

Officer: "You just don't know how long you are going to stay"

Me: [Didn't say anything, but kept thinking - Is she annoyed, or not too bright, or did I say something wrong?....]

Me: (waiting) ...

I recalled a particular question on application form - "Are you a member or representative of a terrorist organization?" And some similar questions on that form that I would consider stupid questions.

Me: (giggled)...

Officer: "What?"

Me: "Nothing" (still smiling)

Officer: "What's so funny?"

Me: "Nothing important, I recalled a stupid question on the visa application..." and then I told her the question and continued "...Why would any terrorist check that box?"

Officer: (blank face), got back to her computer and after some time: "Please come with me"

She took me to a room where I was waiting for 40 minutes. Then another officer came and let me go saying they had to check my bags. When I asked "What was wrong", he said "Nothing". I just wanted to leave and crash at the hotel.

Once I travelled the US, I felt that the security situation was so lax within (I may be wrong). That is why the port of entry becomes such an important barrier.

While returning back from US, via Amsterdam - the Amsterdam authorities questioned me as if I was travelling from some seriously-troubled-war-torn country. Might have been a one-off incident

After that trip which was more stressful and a bit frustrating - I kept refusing any other trips to the US. And the situation seems to be a lot more worse now.

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

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This is just outrageous. So not having the identifiable social accounts that the customs officer knows will go against someone getting into the country? No Facebook, No Twitter, No Scruff, No popular networks. What do I do? Write a bot that posts non political stuff to social profiles created just to please these guys? Great times we live. Too much freedom in the land of the brave!

Ironically, sharing this article on social media would also be considered a red flag I suppose.

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Then you will quite possibly be denied access simply because they cannot harvest your social media profiles for profiling. Not just because they can't. Because you specifically took steps to prevent them from doing it.

> Because you specifically took steps to prevent them from doing it. ... or I'm travelling with my local SIM to avoid roaming charges?

That only works if you've already been to the US and have a local SIM card.

Also — you left your home country SIM at home because you don't care about the roaming charges back home getting to/returning from the airport?

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OTOH, not changing all your passwords after having to divulge them under duress is pretty careless, too.

True, but it'd be especially painful if you use a password manager. Presumably they're going to demand the master password, so you're left changing everything. If you were dealing with a reasonable system, a compromise might be to unlock the accounts for them (without them seeing the password) and allow them to review the contents in your presence. That way you know exactly what they've seen, and that they're not hol…

>True, but it'd be especially painful if you use a password manager. Presumably they're going to demand the master password, so you're left changing everything.

So you have to change everything + the master password, that is 1 more than you would have to change, had you not used it. Without a password manager, you could just give them the passwords they wanted, if you remember 20+ different random passwords. Otherwise you are reusing your passwords and so have to change most of them anyway.

>If you were dealing with a reasonable system

That this could seriously be described as "reasonable" shows just how much things went wrong.

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#246

Everyone proposing clever technical solutions. Burner phones and encrypted cloud data etc... you are solving the wrong problem. Instead of engineering a way for the few people who care deeply to avoid this at great effort, engineer a way for this to not be legal. Write your congressperson, donate time and money to political parties, make privacy at the border for ALL (not just citizens) a priority in every election.

> Everyone proposing clever technical solutions. Burner phones and encrypted cloud data etc... you are solving the wrong problem. Yes, and this is why I will happily pay airlines more to transfer in another country that is not America (e.g. Canada, Mexico). It sucks because it makes travel more expensive, but US airports are not traveler friendly (they could start by having international transfer zones so you don't h…

You are missing out on Hawaii and Alaska.

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#247

Everyone proposing clever technical solutions. Burner phones and encrypted cloud data etc... you are solving the wrong problem. Instead of engineering a way for the few people who care deeply to avoid this at great effort, engineer a way for this to not be legal. Write your congressperson, donate time and money to political parties, make privacy at the border for ALL (not just citizens) a priority in every election.

> Everyone proposing clever technical solutions. Burner phones and encrypted cloud data etc... you are solving the wrong problem. Yes, and this is why I will happily pay airlines more to transfer in another country that is not America (e.g. Canada, Mexico). It sucks because it makes travel more expensive, but US airports are not traveler friendly (they could start by having international transfer zones so you don't h…

There is one flight from Latin America to east Asia. Aeromexico flies from Mexico City to Tokyo and Shanghai alternately with their 787s. (ANA is adding a NRT-MEX flight this winter also.)

But there are many, many connecting flights through DFW, Houston, LAX, and SFO. The direct flight costs upwards of $500 more, often a 60% or higher premium. That's the value of avoiding transit through the USA and the visa and CIS procedures involved. (Actually, the first $100 could be the usual price for a direct flight over a connection, but the same $500+ price increment seems to apply to connecting flights.)

Aeromexico is not known for its excellent seats, service, or food (though they're fine as airlines go). It's all about avoiding US officials.

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#248

The U.S. is the only country I've visited where immigration asked me a trick question. Not the kind of mental gymnastics you want to be doing after a 14 hour flight. I'm lucky I caught it.

Indeed, what was the question? "Does your mother know you're a terrorist?" or something more subtle? :)

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

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In the US right now visiting, am Canadian. Was a pain, was held up over an hour at the border (via land). Apparently they don't believe there's any reason for a Canadian to visit the US as a tourist, we only want to work illegally (they're partially right, only came to visit family, our national parks are nicer). Also, based on my family members' experiences of working in the US, it's easier to work illegally than to…

The problem is it's very easy to make entering the country hard for legal immigrants and tourists - you just make tons of strict rules, tell border control to enforce them vigorously and voila! But it's much harder to crack down on illegal immigration, since by definition they won't follow laws and rules. You'll need to spend a lot of money and effort on finding them and getting them out, on enforcing eligibility che…

Yes, there's strong political opposition to immigration enforcement, but there's also strong opposition to illegal work enforcement.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/us/california-farmers-bac...

If anyone were serious about this problem, E-verify would be in force everywhere and the working population that supports 12M undocumented immigrants would be out of work tomorrow, and out of the country the next day.

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Everyone proposing clever technical solutions. Burner phones and encrypted cloud data etc... you are solving the wrong problem. Yes, and this is why I will happily pay airlines more to transfer in another country that is not America (e.g. Canada, Mexico). It sucks because it makes travel more expensive, but US airports are not traveler friendly (they could start by having international transfer zones so you don't h…

You are missing out on Hawaii and Alaska.

Can always visit NWT, or BC.
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