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Re: Jess Frazelle

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Post by vidarh »

ziotom78 wrote: post #29
tzhenghao wrote: post #17

I attended her talk on "Containerizing Your Desktop" at LinuxCon NA 2015, and she maintains this open source repository filled with awesome Dockerfiles that can run anything from Spotify to Chrome. Truly amazing https://github.com/jessfraz/dockerfiles

What is the point of running Chrome in a Docker container? Is it useful only for developers which want to test stuff using a fixed version of the browser, or is it something that everybody surfing the web should really want to do? (I am not a web developer, so this is a sincere question. I am genuinely curious!)

I don't think it's something everyone should want to do today, but there is a broader push to experiment with better isolation and portability of applications, and dockerizing applications is one avenue of experimenting with that (others would be things like NixOS or Qubes OS).

Note that in terms of isolation, I would be hesitant to consider this (dockerizing apps) a particularly strong solution in terms of security now, but isolation is not only about security, but also about e.g. preventing applications from crapping files all over your system (and being able to know where they've put files - e.g. "docker diff" is quite nice), and having convenient ways of restricting their resource usage etc.

For me at least, when I dockerize apps it tends to be about those concerns, as well as being able to run multiple versions of apps conveniently etc. or to be able to package up a whole toolchain and lock it at combinations of tools I know work well together.

Re: Jess Frazelle

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Post by abronan »

neom wrote: post #21

Jessie Frazelle is not only an inspiring and talented engineer but she is also an excellent community leader and a much needed and valued voice. On top of all of that, I echo the sentiments below, awesome human. Glad to see her being recognized!

For having worked with Jessie while she was still working at Docker (I no longer work there either), I can confirm that. She is genuinely radiant and her excitement for technology in general is contagious.

She was always around to help or hack something cool. I remember the night of the release of Docker 1.9, we stayed late at the office to merge the last PRs and run test suites before releasing the binaries. Jess did not have to be there but she stayed to help Tibor (another amazing human being and prolific contributor) and myself 'til 23pm on the release process. You know you are surrounded with talented engineers when you can count on them regardless of the difficulties encountered. That night, her presence lifted a big burden off my shoulders.

I'm not sure I would have had the same excitement for Docker before joining if she was not working there. To me, she had a huge impact on the craze towards containers.

Re: Jess Frazelle

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Post by zwischenzug »

shykes wrote: post #22
theparanoid wrote: post #14

"The greatest contribution need for Docker" I believe less is more. Docker has grown into an all consuming piece of complexity. The best code is code you never write.

Docker has taken the direction of a loose collection of tools tied together by an integrated interface. So you have the choice of using the platform as a whole, or standing up your choice of individual components on their own, without any dependency on Docker. Based on your comment, you're probably not the target audience for the platform. I recommend checking out some of the components to see if they meet your crite…

Why was the parent down-voted?

Re: Jess Frazelle

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Post by jgrahamc »

dorianm wrote: post #26
jgrahamc wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried to hire her and failed. :-(

I think that's the first time I see someone publicly saying that they tried to hire someone and it failed, very interesting.

Really? Well, perhaps it's just that I'm not ashamed to say when I failed.

Re: Jess Frazelle

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Post by throweawaye »

I saw Jess speak at Kiwicon 9 in New Zealand. She did the whole thing live, from the command line, with no slides. It was probably one of the most compelling talks I've ever seen and an absolute honour to witness such skill and passion. Myself and the several hundred other attendees were all in awe.

Re: Jess Frazelle

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Post by ainiriand »

drej wrote: post #24

One thing that tends to be undervalued is sheer positivity and passion. Jess reminds me of Julia Evans, both radiate excitement whenever they talk at conferences, regardless of topic. More joy like this, please.

Exactly. We need way way way less drama.

Re: Jess Frazelle

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Post by K0nserv »

ainiriand wrote: post #36
drej wrote: post #24

One thing that tends to be undervalued is sheer positivity and passion. Jess reminds me of Julia Evans, both radiate excitement whenever they talk at conferences, regardless of topic. More joy like this, please.

Exactly. We need way way way less drama.

We need fewer sources of drama. As long as there are still sources of drama it serves a purpose.

Re: Jess Frazelle

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Post by nl »

ziotom78 wrote: post #29
tzhenghao wrote: post #17

I attended her talk on "Containerizing Your Desktop" at LinuxCon NA 2015, and she maintains this open source repository filled with awesome Dockerfiles that can run anything from Spotify to Chrome. Truly amazing https://github.com/jessfraz/dockerfiles

What is the point of running Chrome in a Docker container? Is it useful only for developers which want to test stuff using a fixed version of the browser, or is it something that everybody surfing the web should really want to do? (I am not a web developer, so this is a sincere question. I am genuinely curious!)

There are lots of potential reasons. Some things I've considered doing it for (many of which have alternative solutions, but nevertheless)

Different network configurations per browser. This is useful for doing things like checking geo-targetting via VPNs etc.

Better security isolation. Chrome is pretty good at this, but if you want to run a suspicious add-on this is a good way to do it.

Better isolation for scriptable browsers.

I'm sure there are plenty I haven't thought of.

Re: Jess Frazelle

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Post by neom »

drej wrote: post #24

One thing that tends to be undervalued is sheer positivity and passion. Jess reminds me of Julia Evans, both radiate excitement whenever they talk at conferences, regardless of topic. More joy like this, please.

Not to Hijack the spotlight that Jess deserves or diminish her accomplishments: However, will happily add Tess Rinearson to the list of people who keep me excited about tech: https://twitter.com/_tessr

Re: Jess Frazelle

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Post by angry_octet »

hvidgaard wrote: post #30
ziotom78 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the point of running Chrome in a Docker container? Is it useful only for developers which want to test stuff using a fixed version of the browser, or is it something that everybody surfing the web should really want to do? (I am not a web developer, so this is a sincere question. I am genuinely curious!)

Have you ever wondered why a computer seems to slow down over time, but after a reinstall it is magically faster? That is because programs install a lot of things, and often don't uninstall everything again, even if you ask it to. Putting programs in a container means you keep your main system free of this cruft.

AKA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLL_Hell

and the non-solutions of WinSxS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side-by-side_assembly) and the current 'binaries are linked to an exactly matching library forever, install EVERY possible library version'.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100305054645/http://msdn.micro...

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