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Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#41
post #4

This happened under Obama.

It happened in December. What is the relevance of who was President at the time?

The President has significant influence on how border security is conducted, as evidenced by the recent effect of Trump's executive order which has been covered extensively in the news. Many/most readers will associate this event with Trump.

Incidentally, how do we know when this event happened? The photo is labeled December, but its essentially a stock photo.

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#42

There needs to be some reasonable way to get your digital life into an E2E encrypted cloud, wipe your devices, fly into the police state you call home, and get setup again when you land. You can promise at the border that your head doesn't contain anything either. I get very worried about traveling with an object as alien and shiny as a Yubikey. I don't know how I'd explain it to an aneurism in a Kevlar vest without…

Sadly, yubikeys don't work everywhere and can't store more than a couple traditional-style passwords last I checked.

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#43
post #29

No phone. No password. No electronic device. No problem.

Suspicious foreigner. Back you go.

They usually have to construct a narrative of suspicion. I don't know how not having electronic devices or a phone is suspicious.

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#44
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in New York, there are many Democrats campaigning on an anti-Trump platform. They use stories like this to justify their candidacy. Recognising that they did nothing about these issues is informative for primary coördination and voting.

What's your take on the story?

It shows a hole in our rule of law. There's a case in front of SCOTUS, Hernández vs. Mesa, exploring the Constitutional protection of foreign nationals at the U.S. border [1]. In 2010, an unarmed fifteen-year-old Mexican boy was shot in the head by a U.S. Border Patrol agent. The boy was in a culvert jointly patrolled by the U.S. and Mexico, but officially, the agent was in the United States and the boy in Mexico.

This more proximate story profiles a single U.S. Customers and Border Protection agent traversing the personal and sensitive data of a minority (by sexual orientation) citizen of a friendly nation. The agent wields sole and arbitrary power to detain, question, seize and arrest. And he does so with impunity. (Our government declined to prosecute Jesus Mesa, Jr., from Hernández vs. Mesa, despite him having made up claims of the victim throwing rocks at him, later disproven.)

We're on Hacker News, so instead of depressed drivel I'll suggest a solution. We need legal insurance for the U.S. border crossing. Get extrajudicially harassed by a numpty? Your monthly fee covers a competent lawyer. (Maybe use the AirHelp model [2]--you only pay if they succeed.) We also need rapid data exfiltration and reintroduction techniques. Wiping my iPhone and Mac, traversing the border, and then hoping my Internet on the other side is fast (and secure) enough to reload my apps and data within a day isn't reasonable.

[1] http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Cross-b...

[2] https://www.airhelp.com/en/

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#45
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It happened in December. What is the relevance of who was President at the time?

The President has significant influence on how border security is conducted, as evidenced by the recent effect of Trump's executive order which has been covered extensively in the news. Many/most readers will associate this event with Trump. Incidentally, how do we know when this event happened? The photo is labeled December, but its essentially a stock photo.

It says in the article:

"he was going through Customs preclearance at Vancouver airport last October"

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That and the bit about the bill that would increase CBP's power to detain and strip search Canadians entering the US were the two most troubling things in the article, IMO.

Why Canadians?

It's the pre-screen areas are inside Canadian airports, on Canadian lands. Anything the us border cops can do there, they do so with the permission of the Canadian government.

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#47
post #38

Argh, you couldn't invent this kafkaesque stuff: "When he went through secondary inspection at Vancouver airport, US Customs officers didn’t even need to ask for his passwords — they were saved in their own system." "They said, ‘Next time you come through, don’t have a cleared phone,’ and that was it. I wasn’t let through. " -- I know that US/Canada privacy laws might not give people protection in this situations, bu…

Since when does the US give a damn thing about the UN declaration?

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#48
Over the last few years I've gone from wanting to visit the US and planning it as one of the next few holidays I'd like to do, to wanting to visit the US but holding off until 'later', to now simply not wanting to visit due to these sort of policies and actions at the border.

It's a shame; US citizens are generally lovely people, the US natural environment is beautiful and, hell, the US makes killer craft beers that I'd love to drink my way through. However, there's enough other destinations around the world to keep me busy so that I don't have to possibly subject myself to this sort of treatment, and therefore I'll visit them instead.

Re: US Customs block Canadian man after reading his Scruff profile

#49
Everyone proposing clever technical solutions. Burner phones and encrypted cloud data etc... you are solving the wrong problem. Instead of engineering a way for the few people who care deeply to avoid this at great effort, engineer a way for this to not be legal. Write your congressperson, donate time and money to political parties, make privacy at the border for ALL (not just citizens) a priority in every election.
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