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Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by scaryclam »

linkmotif wrote: post #38
ams6110 wrote: post #32

Be very careful using a "free" tier on any email service if you care about reliable delivery. These are naturally utilized by people sending spam, so the mail servers used by the free tier plans tend to get a low(er) reputation. I had this issue with Mailgun, which otherwise is a fantastic service.

Mailgun has a whole FAQ type thing about sharing IPs vs getting dedicated. They kind of claim an opposite/divergent thing from what you write. They say using shared as you build domain reputation can help because you pool with more established senders. Did you find that not to be true? Are there many spammers in that pool? Should I just go dedicated right away?

I find that mailgun is highly protective over thier IP reputation, so unless you actually run into an issue yourself, don't bother with dedicated. Some spammers may use them but I've not seen much evidence of it.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by scaryclam »

ams6110 wrote: post #39
ploggingdev wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious so can you explain what was the issue you faced using the Mailgun free plan? I have used their free plan in the past and never faced issues with reliable delivery and the emails were never marked as spam.

This was about 8 months ago -- had never used Mailgun before. I was seeing nearly 30% "dropped" messages (rejected by receiver due to sender reputation). They did move me to another IP which worked much better, but the first impression on users was already made. I didn't push it too much because after all I wasn't paying for it so didn't really have much standing to complain.

Did you warm up your mailing list? I've seen an issue before, but it was down to our domain being new for email and us not knowing to gradually ramp up the emails instead of sending many from the get go.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by gnopgnip »

sampl wrote: post #15
koolba wrote: post #8

It's impressive that only a quarter of the links are affiliate links.

Could someone explain the hate for affiliate links? Maybe I'm just being naive, but as long as there's no suspicion of ratings bias, I'm fine with them. Ex: I've used thewirecutter.com recommendations for home supplies--and I'm happy to give the creators a kickback for their effort (at no cost to me).

When there is money involved you have to question if the difference in revenue is biasing the review, or the choice of products to consider in the review.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by skolos »

This looks awesome and quite helpful for first deploys.

However after deploying bunch of projects and knowing which services to use we found it is still pain to set up everything together. We thought that automating this process might be valuable and would reduce barrier on starting new projects.

So we put together service where for $39 one time payment we would do the following for you: (assuming you own a domain name - we will need to ask you to point dns of your domain name to cloudflare)

All the following services will be set up with free tier, so you won't need to pay anything to run your project unless you will want to upgrade anything:

- set up CloudFlare account to manage your DNS - get email for you domain with Zoho and make sure that deliverability settings adjusted correctly - set up web site on zoho with blog - create Google account and register the website with Google Webmaster and Google Analytics - register with Mixpanel for extra event analytics - add inspectlet to capture videos of what visitors doing on your website - create Stripe account to accept payments - hook up web chat from Zoho to chat with your visitors - create facebook and twitter accounts

As a deliverable we will send you a password file that you can open with password safe application (free) and instructions on how to change your passwords. We will also send overview of all accounts and customization steps.

As a pro (or coder) version of our service we will add setting up Azure, AWS or Heroku account, source control account, deploying skeleton application to the cloud (ruby, python, node.js or asp.net). The application will contain user sign up feature, integration with analytics, logging, transactional email, error reporting services.

We were planning to launch our website next weekend but I couldn't resist this discussion. If you are interested, send us email at info@zenprojectstarter.com or leave us a comment on our blank website http://www.zenprojectstarter.com

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by ehfeng »

mcescalante wrote: post #63
mxstbr wrote: post #28

I feel like Sentry[0] should be on the error tracking list, it's an amazing product that's fully open source so you can host it yourself if you're concerned about privacy or throw some money at the stellar team behind it to have them host it for you! [0]: https://sentry.io

Somewhat unrelated, I have seen a lot of places list a "con" of Sentry that its only free plan (non-trial) is self-hosted. This is a pro for me! I LOVE that I can run Sentry on my own infrastructure :)

Strange, we definitely have a free tier (and have had one for years). Our current free plan includes 10k events a month.

But yes, hosting it yourself is the ultimate free tier.

Obvious disclaimer, I work at Sentry.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by newsat13 »

Great list. Would like to see some self-hosted options here and not SaaS. Can I recommend cloudron.io? Just run it off a Digital Ocean or Linode server and you get all apps in https://cloudron.io/store/index.html (Mattermost, Nextcloud, Gitlab, Mailtrain, Ghost to name a few). Obviously, you still need a CDN and Domain but Lets Encrypt integration is built-in.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by Vhaeraun »

desireco42 wrote: post #70
GordonS wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are no advertisements But some of the links are affiliate links. I don't have a problem with this, but if you're going to make a big deal about not having ads or sponsorship, then I think you should have mentioned this too.

I think him picking up affiliate links and not polluting site with ads is good balance. It doesn't change anything for you as a visitor. There is nothing wrong with making money, it is wrong when I get video playing when I click on a link at HN.

Thank you, finally someone with a bit of compassion, instead of hate because "there are affiliation links on the website, so he was obviously paid". That was exactly my idea: no ads, because ads sucks and if a service has an affiliation link, why not use it? For some websites like DigitalOcean, actually using the affiliation link gives you free credits when you register, while without the affiliation link, you don't get anything. I thought that mentioning the affiliation links in the main section of the FAQ page would be enough, but maybe that's not enough. That's something I should fix soon.

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by newsat13 »

mxstbr wrote: post #28

I feel like Sentry[0] should be on the error tracking list, it's an amazing product that's fully open source so you can host it yourself if you're concerned about privacy or throw some money at the stellar team behind it to have them host it for you! [0]: https://sentry.io

Does sentry collect logs or is it just for crash reports? What is a good log collector (preferably self-hosted)?

Re: Deploystack – Curated list of best tools for launching your website

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Post by mcescalante »

ehfeng wrote: post #75
mcescalante wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somewhat unrelated, I have seen a lot of places list a "con" of Sentry that its only free plan (non-trial) is self-hosted. This is a pro for me! I LOVE that I can run Sentry on my own infrastructure :)

Strange, we definitely have a free tier (and have had one for years). Our current free plan includes 10k events a month. But yes, hosting it yourself is the ultimate free tier. Obvious disclaimer, I work at Sentry.

Awesome! I clearly read something misinformed; there is totally a free plan. Makes you guys even more great
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