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Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by s3graham »

roc wrote: post #27
junklight wrote: post #7

while all the commentators and media are wetting their pants about who has landed what blow on who I can't help feeling that the real winners are going to be us users. Apple will lose if they don't respond - and it would seem likely that they will be forced to add some of these features - streaming from my media library being one I would particularly like. Keep landing those killer blows guys and making your products…

The competition is great for the users. The only bad thing is the war of words from either side that insults the intelligence of the readers.

Agreed. The features and progress demonstrated in Android was great, but the continuous "open blah blah" and snide Apple-Flash-whatever 'jokes' were tiring and lame.

Did they really think they wouldn't get media coverage pointing out the obvious comparisons if they just demo'd and explained rather than explicitly mocking?

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by s3graham »

elblanco wrote: post #80
byrneseyeview wrote: post #13

Here's Daniel Lyons on why the Zune has a shot (in early 2008): http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0128/053.html

Interesting to bring the Zune into the discussion. In the past it was always Apple vs. Microsoft. Recently it's been Apple vs. Microsoft vs. Google. In the mobile space though it's very clearly becoming Apple vs. Google even though Microsoft has rather credible products in the space. I suspect too many years of abysmal products in the space just burned too many people to make Microsoft credible for at least 5 years.

I think Xbox 360 is doing pretty well in the minds of consumers. Its future and Google TV seem like they're going to be in direct competition, so I think it's a real 3-way battle.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by beamso »

redrobot5050 wrote: post #101
apu wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're wrong about the write-once run-anywhere software ecosystem that Windows had to deal with. There was an incredible proliferation of different hardware -- including drivers etc. -- and it was mostly up to Microsoft to make sure that the OS continued to work flawlessly (or at least at whatever level of semi-stability it managed to attain) across all of these different configurations. This is an enormous r…

>This is an enormous responsibility that Apple has never had to deal with -- there's a difference of at least 3 if not 4-5 orders of magnitude in the number of different types of hardware platforms that each company had to deal with. Apple is supporting two gens of hardware. The iPhone OS will support the iPhone 3GS, the latest iPod Touch, the next-gen iPhone (as of now, unreleased) and the iPad. Android has 19+ phon…

>Apple is supporting two gens of hardware. The iPhone OS will support the iPhone 3GS, the latest iPod Touch, the next-gen iPhone (as of now, unreleased) and the iPad.

It's three generations. The iPhone 3G is a supported platform for iPhone OS 4.0. You do miss out on multitasking though.

>I think its interesting that Mr. Lyons is "blown away" by Android features that will be coming to his iPhone in 30-60 days, with the exception of teathering (which isn't Apple's fault, but AT&T's).

Lack of tethering is both Apple's and AT&T's fault. It's AT&T's fault for not activating it in the carrier profile but its also Apple's for making sure that the iPhone only allowed signed carrier profiles with iPhone OS 3.1 so that you could no longer download an alternate carrier profile with tethering enabled.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by aschobel »

tptacek wrote: post #96
aschobel wrote: post #12

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The Plural of Anecdote is Not Data

Yes, But I'm Not Sure What Your Point Is.

Sir, More Data Please.

How recently did this happen? Sprint has historically had poor customer satisfaction but they seem to be turning things around.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_gadg/20100521/tc_ytech_gadg/yt...

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by [deleted] »

sandipc wrote: post #51
Qz wrote: post #50

The article picture, sadly, pushes me towards iPhone (not that I would ever buy one). The iPhone screen seems crisper, the colors are brighter, and the interface looks spiffier. Obviously there are other factors at play, but first impressions count for a lot.

check out the nexus one or droid incredible screens for a good iphone comparison...

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Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by Qz »

sandipc wrote: post #51
Qz wrote: post #50

The article picture, sadly, pushes me towards iPhone (not that I would ever buy one). The iPhone screen seems crisper, the colors are brighter, and the interface looks spiffier. Obviously there are other factors at play, but first impressions count for a lot.

check out the nexus one or droid incredible screens for a good iphone comparison...

I mean I believe there are better screens on other phones, but if the title of the article is 'Why I'm switching to Android', then the picture damn well better make me want to switch too, otherwise the credibility of the whole article is shot before I even read a word.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by apphacker »

jrockway wrote: post #129
kscaldef wrote: post #120

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I don't see the difficulty with compiling. Just get out your install disk, open up the optional installs, install XCode. You now have all the standard Unix developer tools (in addition to the XCode app, which you don't have to use).

Discs still exist? I haven't installed an OS from a disc in years. And I haven't installed a compiler from one ... ever.

You can download xcode too, you just need an apple developer account. I prefer downloading than going hunting for my Mac OS X disc.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by eli »

knieveltech wrote: post #66
apphacker wrote: post #48

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However I may feel about iPhoneOS, Mac OS X is a beast that nothing else can compare to. At least for a consumer unix experience where everything just works.

For values of "everything just works" that don't include standard developer tools. Getting a new macbook into configuration for (for example) web development is a PITA compared to any distro I've used that came with a decent package installer (apt, yum) out of the box. You have to hack up the damned keyboard settings just to get home and end keys to work.

Might I suggest running a VMWare image with the same flavor of linux that your production server uses? I've been using this set up happily for years. As a bonus you can copy the dev image to other developers or use it to set up larger dev server.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by jrockway »

lukifer wrote: post #139
jrockway wrote: post #130

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Also, people hate to hear this, but a jailbroken iPhone provides a much better experience and much more competitive than Androids. And according to Jobs, the jailbroken iPhone even includes free room and board for a few years.

Can you back this up? I've never seen anything beyond voiding warranties.

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/02/apple-says-jailbreaking...

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by Herring »

tvon wrote: post #87
yumraj wrote: post #55

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Remember Occam's razor: The simplest explanation is usually the right one.

Occam's Razor isn't a proof, it's a rule of thumb to help you find the answers you're looking for.

It's not even that. It just says unnecessary details are unnecessary.

It's better to think of it as a rule for constructing theories than for evaluating theories.

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