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Re: Ask HN: What is the worst software that you have to use?

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Post by falcolas »

jakebasile wrote: post #76
falcolas wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm happy (unhappy?) to inform you that hipchat is no better. In many ways, it's worse. - Can't edit previous message aside from an exceptionally limited s/// for your very last message - Can't mix text formatting; you're either quoting, coding, or regular typing - Animated GIFs for Avatars. I mean, seriously? - Many of the same problems from Slack's use of Electron (and similar)

Animated avatars? Why do this?

Kinda what I wanted to know too. At least they (eventually) offered a way to turn them off without turning off all custom avatars.

Re: Ask HN: What is the worst software that you have to use?

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Post by synicalx »

lfowles wrote: post #94
synicalx wrote: post #90

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I'll have to say with SAP, it's really down to how it's implemented. I've seen AWFUL implementations of it (like the one you're describing) and I've seen amazing ones, generally the ones either done by SAP themselves or by their recommended partners are the best. Having said that, it's a gigantic beast so it's not surprising that there's a lot of broken implementations out there. Good SAP 'guys' aren't very common un…

Maybe you can clear up some confusion I have about SAP. All I know is that it is generally customized to the business. How extensive is that customization? Slapping on business logos? Checking boxes to match the logic to current business procedures? Writing custom code? Edit: Geeze, it has its own wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_implementation

Oh it goes way deeper than that. I used to work at a mid-sized business, maybe 220 staff at peak and they wanted SAP as a straight up CRM - cost for the building was about $120k + licencing (I don't know how much that was).

But there is a huge amount of customising you can do, the biggest part I've found is normally the integration with existing systems/data sets/data sources. As far as I'm aware, it will integrate with just about anything - I've seen it pull data from Access 2002 databases, proprietary analytics tools, in-house software that was completely undocumented etc etc. It costs many many $$'s though, good example of how throwing money at a problem can eventually fix it.

Re: Ask HN: What is the worst software that you have to use?

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Post by cwisecarver »

jakebasile wrote: post #38

Slack. - It's slow on every platform I use (iOS, macOS). - I often don't get notifications at all, on either platform. - The Mac client crashes too often. - The Mac client uses more resources than it should. - Threads are useless. - Settings are split into too many different views. - I dislike the design. It's too spaced out (even with the "compact" setting). There's no dark mode. I don't like the icon. Everything is…

Try Flowdock for a week. Then try slack again.

Re: Ask HN: What is the worst software that you have to use?

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Post by altern8tif »

jakebasile wrote: post #38

Slack. - It's slow on every platform I use (iOS, macOS). - I often don't get notifications at all, on either platform. - The Mac client crashes too often. - The Mac client uses more resources than it should. - Threads are useless. - Settings are split into too many different views. - I dislike the design. It's too spaced out (even with the "compact" setting). There's no dark mode. I don't like the icon. Everything is…

I really can't understand why Slack doesn't just go with a native app (to address performance issues on Electron).

They're a big enough company to work on developing platform-specific apps which would totally improve the user experience (from a performance standpoint at least).

Re: Ask HN: What is the worst software that you have to use?

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Post by kyriakos »

obombration wrote: post #51

At work, it's probably JIRA. Tons of UI noise, text markup isn't what I expect it to be and nobody around here can seem to agree on what features should be used for a particular scenario. Past work, it would have been Identity Finder by a landslide. Awful UI, awful support, super intrusive, a total pain to administer, just bleh. Glad I was able to wash my hands of that. Personal stuff, iTunes. I genuinely like the in…

Problem with jira is that there's always multiple ways of doing something and the quickest ones are the least obvious ones.

Re: Ask HN: What is the worst software that you have to use?

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Post by Mandatum »

obombration wrote: post #51

At work, it's probably JIRA. Tons of UI noise, text markup isn't what I expect it to be and nobody around here can seem to agree on what features should be used for a particular scenario. Past work, it would have been Identity Finder by a landslide. Awful UI, awful support, super intrusive, a total pain to administer, just bleh. Glad I was able to wash my hands of that. Personal stuff, iTunes. I genuinely like the in…

JIRA definitely comes down to implementation and policy. I've used it in places and it has been amazingly helpful as a developer, to the point I don't know how we did anything before it.. Then going to a place that totally misuses it and causes me to triple-handle everything.

If your company is large and you're looking at JIRA, pay a consultant to come in, set it up for your different teams and train people. It's worth the money, otherwise you won't see the benefit JIRA brings.

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