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Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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Post by jsz0 »

I think Apple as a very mature company likes the long term strategy. They start with a bang but they also realize Version 2 of a product, at its core, is strikingly similar to Version 10. I don't think they feel pressured to dominate a market probably because their business model doesn't require it. The iPod was a bit of a fluke in that sense. It had a lot more to do with the competition losing than Apple being hell bent on domination. Google on the other hand, like Microsoft in the past, needs to succeed with big volume. More searches, more data collected, more services to serve more advertisements, new places to put advertisements, etc.

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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Post by perpetuity »

The techerati's frothing over new Google announcements is goofy. As if GOOG is some saviour from an indescibable hell. The view from here is already amazing.

Everything is amazing and everyone is pissed off. I'm think most of these people cheering and jeering need to spend some time naked, bare assed, with a bone through their nose and then see if this still matters so much to them.

And BTW. No, GOOG is not leap frogging. Hyperbole deluxe.

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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Post by boucher »

jsz0 wrote: post #5

I think Apple as a very mature company likes the long term strategy. They start with a bang but they also realize Version 2 of a product, at its core, is strikingly similar to Version 10. I don't think they feel pressured to dominate a market probably because their business model doesn't require it. The iPod was a bit of a fluke in that sense. It had a lot more to do with the competition losing than Apple being hell…

I think that was a good description of Apple Computer, Inc. Now that we live in the post iPhone world of Apple, Inc., they seem to be behaving quite differently. Their strategy seems dominated by short term market share grabbing in the mobile space, rather than long term product innovation and higher priced products.

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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Post by grinich »

boucher wrote: post #7
jsz0 wrote: post #5

I think Apple as a very mature company likes the long term strategy. They start with a bang but they also realize Version 2 of a product, at its core, is strikingly similar to Version 10. I don't think they feel pressured to dominate a market probably because their business model doesn't require it. The iPod was a bit of a fluke in that sense. It had a lot more to do with the competition losing than Apple being hell…

I think that was a good description of Apple Computer, Inc. Now that we live in the post iPhone world of Apple, Inc., they seem to be behaving quite differently. Their strategy seems dominated by short term market share grabbing in the mobile space, rather than long term product innovation and higher priced products.

* Their strategy seems dominated by short term market share grabbing in the mobile space, rather than long term product innovation...*

Even in light of the iPad?

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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Post by sandipc »

bonecandy wrote: post #3
MikeCapone wrote: post #2

Wasn't Google supposed to announce an encrypted search this week? Whatever happened to that? Anyone has the inside scoop?

http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2010/05/encrypted-google-sea... It's coming

it's here. (beta)

https://www.google.com/

Re: Google is leapfrogging Apple

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Post by zackola »

The whole leapfrogging thing implies (to me) that you are not only doing more things than someone, but also doing them better. Yes, FroYo has added a ton of great features to android, however I still feel that Apple has not yet been leapfrogged in the most basic parts of design for core parts today's mobile experience.

The most obvious of these to me is text entry via touch screen. There can be no claims of leapfrogging until I can use an android device's touch screen to SMS someone without pulling (what little is left of) my hair out.

Next is the whole activity response/switching thing. Yes, blah blah, tradeoffs for multitasking, whatever. Why not have a way to turn off non-system multi-tasking in favor of super lightning quick responsiveness on android? It's enough to almost throw the phone across the room when you are trying to answer the phone and key presses don't register.

In terms of industrial design, there have been no great leaps by any of Google's hardware partners - Every single android handset I've used has felt like a cheap, disposable piece of junk (G1, Hero, N1) or a giant tank (Droid) compared to the first generation iPhone. I haven't played with the incredible yet, so I still have hope, but not much.

Google and Apple have taken two different approaches to mobile. Google is trying to throw as many different features into android in as short a time as possible, and Apple is set on perfecting each detail before incorporating more. This is fine, it's two different philosophies.

After my prolonged experiences with the G1 and the original iPhone, I'd much rather live day to day with software and hardware that has been developed to Apple's design and usability standards. (I'm talking about the system software here, not 3rd party apps) I hope in the coming year Google has a chance to go back and spend time polishing what they've accomplished so far instead of continually heaping feature upon feature onto android.

If Google can get back to user interaction basics and stop mucking around with some of their other tangents, they could make android great, not just passable.

Or maybe I was just too abused by my time with the G1 to judge this argument fairly anymore, definitely possible.

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