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Has There Been a Nuclear Incident in the Arctic?

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Re: Has There Been a Nuclear Incident in the Arctic?

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Post by MichaelMoser123 »

omnius19 wrote: post #52
matt4077 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel this vilification of the media is far overblown. Specifically: I cannot imagine that a quality news site (say the NY Times, Atlantic, or WSJ) would not mention such uncertainty. More easily provable: I challenge you to find a single article of about a disaster that includes unwarranted product recommendations (i. e. not "authorities are asking citizen to stock water and other necessities in preparation for the…

I completely agree. It is one thing to give reasonable criticism of a specific incidence of news media misconduct. It is another thing to blanket condemn every news organization based on inaccurate hypotheticals and personal opinions with no proof. Democracy is in trouble when people lose faith in the media and independent journalism is suppressed. By all means, be a skeptical and informed consumer of the news, but d…

> Democracy is in trouble when people lose faith in the media and independent journalism is suppressed

To what extent is reporting skewed/slanted in the direction of the owners interests? Each media outlet still has an owner, hasn't it?

Re: Has There Been a Nuclear Incident in the Arctic?

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Post by acd »

There is a lot of Nuclear waste left from the cold war. https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk1/1995/9504/950406.PDF

The US version of what can happen is documented in the movie Command and control. When a service engineer accidentally drops a wrench that rips up a fuel rift in a missile. http://www.commandandcontrolfilm.com/

We should cooperate in trade and peace as that is a better strategy for all according to game theory.

Re: Has There Been a Nuclear Incident in the Arctic?

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Post by dll »

Many European countries share radiological monitoring data with each other, and this is made available to the public through the Joint Research Council: https://remon.jrc.ec.europa.eu/

I'm not sure if it's possible to get historical data, but if so it could be interesting to have a look at data from January.

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Post by xupybd »

mfukar wrote: post #107
rtx wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People lost faith in media after their support for Iraq war. I haven't seen anything from them which shows they are trying to improve.

You say "media" as if it's a singular entity. It is not. It encompasses Fox News (which I don't watch but I gather is a cesspool), The London Review of Books, Vogue, Infowars, YouTube, etc. A set of _competing_ companies. Not all of them support or supported (the Iraq) war. Like so many others that refer to "the media" in the same way, I have to ask: Are you sure you're not falling into the trap of "I didn't see it,…

The "media" has a major problem. Its main driver is its entertainment value. News is more entertaining when sensationalised and heavily biased. I don't think there is a conspiracy or negligence causing this. Just simple economic drivers. It's the same thing we see with fast food. Yeah it's bad, but it's exactly what the market demands.

Re: Has There Been a Nuclear Incident in the Arctic?

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Post by konstmonst »

matt4077 wrote: post #49
exabrial wrote: post #11

I do have to complement the authors of this article. It presents the facts and leaves out political rhetoric and noise. I'm pleased with the title too; if the article were featured on a mainstream news site in the USA, it would have declared it as a definitive event and give a list of what products to buy from their advertisers.

I feel this vilification of the media is far overblown. Specifically: I cannot imagine that a quality news site (say the NY Times, Atlantic, or WSJ) would not mention such uncertainty. More easily provable: I challenge you to find a single article of about a disaster that includes unwarranted product recommendations (i. e. not "authorities are asking citizen to stock water and other necessities in preparation for the…

May be off topic, but I wouldn't call WSJ a quality news source. For example their coverage of PewDiePie wha pretty incorrect and sensationalist.

Re: Has There Been a Nuclear Incident in the Arctic?

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Post by nl »

shard972 wrote: post #54
matt4077 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel this vilification of the media is far overblown. Specifically: I cannot imagine that a quality news site (say the NY Times, Atlantic, or WSJ) would not mention such uncertainty. More easily provable: I challenge you to find a single article of about a disaster that includes unwarranted product recommendations (i. e. not "authorities are asking citizen to stock water and other necessities in preparation for the…

> Specifically: I cannot imagine that a quality news site (say the NY Times, Atlantic, or WSJ) would not mention such uncertainty. What about that news article that WaPo published about the guy who found some malware on his laptop and was blown out into this https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russi... I don't know how you could go from a virus on a laptop to "Russia is hacking into our power grid"…

What about that news article that WaPo published about the guy who found some malware on his laptop and was blown out into this https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russi....

I don't know how you could go from a virus on a laptop to "Russia is hacking into our power grid" unless you are being intentionally dishonest or have such an agenda that you jump at any scrap to make a story.

That was terrible.

Good thing WaPo withdrew it and posted this:

Editor’s Note: An earlier version of this story incorrectly said that Russian hackers had penetrated the U.S. electric grid. Authorities say there is no indication of that so far. The computer at Burlington Electric that was hacked was not attached to the grid.[1]

I dunno. I've occasionally got things wrong before.

The real problem is when they double-down on an incorrect position in the face of evidence to the contrary.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russi...

Re: Has There Been a Nuclear Incident in the Arctic?

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Post by sangnoir »

MR4D wrote: post #38

Didn't a Russian ship catch fire some months ago and travel through the English Channel? Seems to me that if it affected the nuclear aspect of the ship, it could pollute the water, and also flow into some of the major rivers of Europe.

Iodine-131 has a half-life of only 8 days: the incident is much more recent than "months ago"
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