These are allegations by one party against another with zero data either way, why is everyone on the anti-uber bandwagon.
When they keep getting caught doing scummy things over and over again, people stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Uber Investigating Sexual Harassment Claims by Ex-Employee
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#152Is there any physical/electronic evidence?
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
> what's the alternative Contact your state's labour commissioner. If you received stock or stock options, contact your state securities commissioner. Otherwise, suing is tried and true.
Suing is a surefire pathway to being made a pariah, case in point Ellen Pao. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pao_v._Kleiner_Perkins
> ...pa...
I understand that English has absorbed that word and its meaning in the current sense. But please don't use that word. That is like the n-word in south india. It is specifically used to refer to people in a derogatory way.
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#154One thing that every employee needs to understand is that HR is not your friend. No matter how friendly or helpful they seem, their job is not to protect you. It's to protect the company.
Sure they're not your friend, but Jesus Christ, the amount of legal trouble this particular HR establishment exposed themselves to through their actions is breathtaking. THAT'S their job: to prevent the company from getting sued!! In this case I'm completely bewildered as to why HR handled this particular situation so clumsily.
Sure..the thing I don't understand is why she didn't go to a lawyer? That would have been the next logical step for me. At least 1 person should get to prison if there is enough evidence collected by multiple women.
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#155Headline should read 'Uber Ignored Female Employee's Claims of Sexual Harassment Until She Quit, Wrote About It And Got It Picked Up On High Profile Site'
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is sexism a blindfold? A noiseless barrier where nothing can pass through? I would define sexism to be believing facts solely based on a persons gender. This does not mean that if you had evidence that one sex was better at something, and you reached a conclusion based on that, then that would be sexist. For example, it's quite obvious that men are taller and stronger than women. It's not sexist to say that, as it's…
There's something wrong with the way you think if you view an accusation directed towards a statement as an accusation towards the person who said it instead.
Branding someone's speech as sexist is implying they are sexist themselves. Who else would, in neutral context, make sexist statements without being a sexist?
Besides which, if you understood my point I don't see how you could view a statement like "Gender X is better at Y" as being sexist in it of itself. You would need to see the supporting evidence or lack thereof of to decide whether the idea conveyed is sexist.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
HR could totally act in the way the article describes. They exist to protect the interests of the organization, and to minimize boat-rocking. It would be easy for HR to dismiss her claims in the very same way that you are. Before we start down the path of victim-blaming, lets at least consider the possibility her claims are valid.
Telling a victim that they should expect to be abused further (in the form of a negative review) does not minimize boat rocking or protect the interests of the organization. It leaves them open to lawsuits and antagonizes the victim into further action. And if it was true that they were protecting the manager because he was high-performing, why would you make this explicit. It just makes no sense and reeks of one sid…
I agree that HR should not behave in the ways it's claimed they did. However, based on my perception of Uber's willingness to ignore rules, I find it believable that they could have an HR department that thinks such actions are a good choice; I also wouldn't be surprised if they don't do any of the state mandated harassment training either for all employees or the addition training for managers.
I also believe the claims because they are very specific, egregious, and should be verifiable; and they were related in a simply facts manner: there were no questions of intent or what the other people were thinking, and only a limited amount of heresay. Additionally, it felt more like a "this kind of thing is happening, you should watch out for it" than a call for pitchforks and torches.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Citations needed.
Citations not needed. There are allegations, nothing more. If this happened to me, I would find the moral import of the matter significant to the point that it would not occur to me to use it to plug my book. This may well be an endemic issue at this company, and it does seem that these sorts of situations do in fact exist in some places, but so far there is only one person's story's and without proof.
My interpretation was that the "citation needed" was in reference to "we have seen similar claims before that have turned out to be false or exaggerated greatly".
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Understood. You should get your lady friends in tech to read the comments you posted on a throwaway. Do you think they'll feel safer around you?
yich. pointing out that we're an audience without legal standing, playing with pitchforks, is not harassment or condoning harassment.
That's the sound your lady friends would be making if they knew the moral imperative you felt after reading that blog post was to defend the judicial system from comments on this website.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
That doesn't excuse all the guilty-until-proven-innocent pitchforking going on right now.
You should abandon your throwaway and talk to some of your lady friends in tech about their experiences. See for yourself if their anecdotes build up into something approaching quantitative - and ask them if anything was ever done about their complaints - or if they even felt safe enough to complain to the people they ought to feel safe around.
Ah, look at this cuck. Lady friend. Do you masturbate to her cuckold?.
That hoe might be lying and very likely made up the story for her book promotion. Can't wait to be proven false and crucify her.