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One thing that every employee needs to understand is that HR is not your friend. No matter how friendly or helpful they seem, their job is not to protect you. It's to protect the company.
If they ask you to sign something it is usually not in your interest to do what they ask.
One thing that every employee needs to understand is that HR is not your friend. No matter how friendly or helpful they seem, their job is not to protect you. It's to protect the company.
Given: ------
- The manager indirectly fished for mutual sexual interest with a subordinate.
- Managers and subordinates engage in workplace relationships across the country and the world. They all start with a "proposition" of one kind or another.
Only when a manager is shown to abuse their power in support of a personal agenda should there be damages imposed. Not simply for an expression of interest.
- The subordinate reported the manager. The manager appears to then have ceased any further activity that could have been offensive to the subordinate.
- Simply discussing one's sex life with an employee - regardless of the employee's interpretation - is not sexual harassment. I'd bet my bottom dollar that Fowler approached attorneys over this and was rebuffed - which is precisely why she's shame-blogging about her incident.
- This is another case of a woman who is not attracted to someone who shows interest in her making sure that she lets the world know how offended and injured she is.
Her subsequent discussions with other employees who warn her of retaliatory consequences are just that. Workplace gossip.
- I'm not sympathetic, I don't this should be legislated against. I think human beings should have the right to express interest.
If this kind of mentality is promoted, as you all wish to promote it, we'll live in a world where those who are simply seen as undesirable being automatically engaged in harassment.
:)
This is the third post on this topic that's made the front page: [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13683894 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022
This is the third post on this topic that's made the front page: [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13683894 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022
Why wouldn't there be lots of stories about this on the front page? It is big news about a major player in the exact target market of this site. It is also actionable to the audience here: this story may affect the decisions of many current and potentially future Uber employees.
Which would likely be a good thing.
The problem is that men misconstrue the natural social and friendly tendency of most women as sexual advances. There needs to be more education in this respect with men. Just because a woman is chatty and willing to collaborate doesn't mean she wants to sleep with you. I know that sounds sexist, but honestly, I think women just are naturally or at least culturally (does the difference matter in this case, really?) mo…
This isn't a case where it was the first accusation nor was it where he or other people in management were unaware (the issue was escalated), the behavior was inappropriate.
The problem is the management was told there was an issue, repeatedly, with evidence, by several people, and choose to not act upon it. Doesn't matter if it's sexual harassment or incompetence, employees won't tolerate bad cultures if they can help it.
This is a lot of things, sexual harassment, work culture, accountability, office politics, etc., but some guy being clueless about women isn't one of them.
That's a hell of a claim since this is a "typical corporate America" type of problem.