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I ate 40 teaspoons of sugar a day. This is what happened (2015)

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Re: I ate 40 teaspoons of sugar a day. This is what happened (2015)

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Post by devoply »

hrodriguez wrote: post #29

I didn't watch the film or do other research except for reading the article. I just wonder what the effects of a lifetime of bad eating, smoking and who knows what else... did to his body previously. He may have already built-up some medical issues. Any problems he had previously weren't reported and analysed in the article. A "healthy" diet for 3 years doesn't miraculously erase his past. To suddenly go into a diver…

The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is today. As for adjusting you don't need a period of adjustment to go from a sugar riddled diet to a non-sugar riddled diet. Or to ease into it. I have never read anything to suggest something like that. You need to do that with exercise because the fat built up in your arteries might break off and clog your heart. Or the arteries are too narrow as it is and exertion might cause problems in you won't get enough blood running properly in your system which could cause other cadiovascular problems.

Re: I ate 40 teaspoons of sugar a day. This is what happened (2015)

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Post by endentru »

devoply wrote: post #31
hrodriguez wrote: post #29

I didn't watch the film or do other research except for reading the article. I just wonder what the effects of a lifetime of bad eating, smoking and who knows what else... did to his body previously. He may have already built-up some medical issues. Any problems he had previously weren't reported and analysed in the article. A "healthy" diet for 3 years doesn't miraculously erase his past. To suddenly go into a diver…

The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is today. As for adjusting you don't need a period of adjustment to go from a sugar riddled diet to a non-sugar riddled diet. Or to ease into it. I have never read anything to suggest something like that. You need to do that with exercise because the fat built up in your arteries might break off and clog your heart. Or the arteries are too narrow as…

I think hrodriguez meant that it was the shock of going from a ~3 year low-sugar diet to a 40-tablespoon-per-day diet that was responsible for the sudden influx of negative effects, one that might not have been seen if he gradually eased into the high sugar diet.

Re: I ate 40 teaspoons of sugar a day. This is what happened (2015)

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Post by 123jfeichabc »

dabadoo wrote: post #9
ryanobjc wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What else did he eat? Sugar will raise your insulin level, which directs more blood sugar to fat cells. So it's not just a case of calories in calories out.

It is a matter of calories in calories out. He didn't just increase his concentration of fat, he straight up gained 8.5 kilograms of mass.

The human body is a complex system, with hormones controlling how energy is stored and made available, and nutritional content continuously altering the levels of those hormones.

Your statements completely ignore variables such as:

Bioavailability of the calories - how much of it remains in the waste (urine/feces) or is being metabolized by gutteral bacteria, for example. These variables strongly depend on the types of calories consumed, particularly the presence of dietary fiber. Soluble fiber for example is especially effective at capturing sugars and preventing their absorption in the small intestine, resulting in flatulence after arrival in the large intestine.

Insulin levels - when insulin levels are high energy is stored as fat. Hormones like insulin also influence mood and activity levels. Obese people are generally lethargic and low-energy/low-activity individuals, regardless of what is obviously an excess of energy available. This is due to the hormonal dysfunction. Hormones can cause a person to be internally starving when they're ingesting excessive calories, simply because their hormones are signaling the fat stores to effectively steal all the energy in the blood stream.

Re: I ate 40 teaspoons of sugar a day. This is what happened (2015)

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Post by hrodriguez »

endentru wrote: post #32
devoply wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is today. As for adjusting you don't need a period of adjustment to go from a sugar riddled diet to a non-sugar riddled diet. Or to ease into it. I have never read anything to suggest something like that. You need to do that with exercise because the fat built up in your arteries might break off and clog your heart. Or the arteries are too narrow as…

I think hrodriguez meant that it was the shock of going from a ~3 year low-sugar diet to a 40-tablespoon-per-day diet that was responsible for the sudden influx of negative effects, one that might not have been seen if he gradually eased into the high sugar diet.

Exactly. For example, I don't consume alcohol. When I do so on the rare occasion, just a little hits me very hard. Regular drinkers don't have this issue. I would never think of going from zero alcohol to consuming a bottle of vodka every day.

I also enjoy a pretty healthy diet/lifestyle - low-salt, low-fat, fruits, veggies, plenty of fiber, regular exercise... I find that my body reacts very badly if I "treat" myself and indulge throughout the day in whatever everyone else consumes so freely. No such issue if it's just a single meal.

I need to taper in (ie, the Holidays are a good example). High salt, high-fat meals are especially hard hitting. I can counter this with lots more water, fiber for example. I also know that if I remained on these richer diets, eventually my body wouldn't react so strongly but I would also need to make other dietary changes. Damon Gameau admits he did not make other changes to his diet.

The experiment was a non-stop, high-dose, sugar binge (40 tsp is incredibly high) that went from 0-100 mph in a microsecond.

Re: I ate 40 teaspoons of sugar a day. This is what happened (2015)

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Post by dabadoo »

123jfeichabc wrote: post #33
dabadoo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a matter of calories in calories out. He didn't just increase his concentration of fat, he straight up gained 8.5 kilograms of mass.

The human body is a complex system, with hormones controlling how energy is stored and made available, and nutritional content continuously altering the levels of those hormones. Your statements completely ignore variables such as: Bioavailability of the calories - how much of it remains in the waste (urine/feces) or is being metabolized by gutteral bacteria, for example. These variables strongly depend on the types…

Bioavailability of calories isn't relevant here. There literally is not enough energy in that amount of sugar. Why does it matter if 80% of the available calories is absorbed of 90%?

"Insulin levels - when insulin levels are high energy is stored as fat."

It doesn't matter where energy is stored. 100% of it could have gone to fat.

Re: I ate 40 teaspoons of sugar a day. This is what happened (2015)

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Post by dabadoo »

dualogy wrote: post #19
dabadoo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a matter of calories in calories out. He didn't just increase his concentration of fat, he straight up gained 8.5 kilograms of mass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin > promoting the absorption of, especially, glucose from the blood into fat, liver and skeletal muscle cells > in the tissues that can carry out these reactions, glycogen and fat synthesis from glucose are stimulated > The breakdown of triglycerides by adipose tissue into free fatty acids and glycerol is also inhibited > Increased lipid synthesis – insulin forces fat cells to take…

Kcals in/out is literally the conservation of mass.

Increasing fat synthesis doesn't mean your body can magically make up mass.

Re: I ate 40 teaspoons of sugar a day. This is what happened (2015)

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Post by dabadoo »

thomyorkie wrote: post #14
dabadoo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weight gain is impossible without the necessary amount of calories. It is the simple law of conservation of mass/energy. 160 calories * 21 days = 3360 calories. This is enough to gain about 1 pound of weight, not 19.

Its 160 grams of sugar which equals 619 calories which leads to 12999 calories in 21 days. Still less than 4 pounds though. However, you're really oversimplifying weight gain. Hormones play an important role in how much fat is stored and how much your metabolism burns. And the type of food you eat can affect your hormones.

Yes my mistake. 13k calories is roughly 4 pounds.

>Hormones play an important role in how much fat is stored and how much your metabolism burns. And the type of food you eat can affect your hormones.

It doesn't matter if 100% of the calories he ate was turned into fat.

>how much your metabolism burns.

Eating sugar causes your metabolism to slow down by 4x? You'd die.

Re: I ate 40 teaspoons of sugar a day. This is what happened (2015)

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Post by thomyorkie »

dabadoo wrote: post #37
thomyorkie wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its 160 grams of sugar which equals 619 calories which leads to 12999 calories in 21 days. Still less than 4 pounds though. However, you're really oversimplifying weight gain. Hormones play an important role in how much fat is stored and how much your metabolism burns. And the type of food you eat can affect your hormones.

Yes my mistake. 13k calories is roughly 4 pounds. >Hormones play an important role in how much fat is stored and how much your metabolism burns. And the type of food you eat can affect your hormones. It doesn't matter if 100% of the calories he ate was turned into fat. >how much your metabolism burns. Eating sugar causes your metabolism to slow down by 4x? You'd die.

You're talking about that 13k calories of sugar as if it exists in a vacuum. That extra sugar could have caused more of the other non-sugar food he was consuming to turn to fat.

Re: I ate 40 teaspoons of sugar a day. This is what happened (2015)

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Post by dabadoo »

thomyorkie wrote: post #38
dabadoo wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes my mistake. 13k calories is roughly 4 pounds. >Hormones play an important role in how much fat is stored and how much your metabolism burns. And the type of food you eat can affect your hormones. It doesn't matter if 100% of the calories he ate was turned into fat. >how much your metabolism burns. Eating sugar causes your metabolism to slow down by 4x? You'd die.

You're talking about that 13k calories of sugar as if it exists in a vacuum. That extra sugar could have caused more of the other non-sugar food he was consuming to turn to fat.

Turning to fat doesn't mean mass will come out of nothing

Re: I ate 40 teaspoons of sugar a day. This is what happened (2015)

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Post by dualogy »

dabadoo wrote: post #36
dualogy wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin > promoting the absorption of, especially, glucose from the blood into fat, liver and skeletal muscle cells > in the tissues that can carry out these reactions, glycogen and fat synthesis from glucose are stimulated > The breakdown of triglycerides by adipose tissue into free fatty acids and glycerol is also inhibited > Increased lipid synthesis – insulin forces fat cells to take…

Kcals in/out is literally the conservation of mass. Increasing fat synthesis doesn't mean your body can magically make up mass.

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." - Albert Einstein
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