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Re: Dear Apple

#11

Post by dwaite »

matt2000 wrote: post #5

I don't think it's considered a problem by the team at Apple, or even by some developers, but I would love a more stable Swift language. The number of changes per version * the number of projects in the world is causing a large amount of work and instability. This is contributing to the low tool quality as well.

Swift 3 had a purposeful effort to prioritize syntax-impacting changes and API changes as possible with the idea that Swift 4 and beyond would have backward compatibility for Swift 3 code.

Swift 4/5 will establish ABI compatibility, so that binary swift libraries will work across compiler versions

Re: Dear Apple

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Post by CppCoder »

Since their tools and software is not improving and each version brings new bugs to enjoy, I am happy to see Microsoft support compilation of other platforms with Visual Studio. The best would be Apple stops their whole desktop lineup and focus on mobile Devices, making everything easily accessible from other platforms. Maybe the way the Macs are updated is a sign in this direction.

Re: Dear Apple

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Post by eddieroger »

snackai wrote: post #10

Just stop pushing apps for iProducts. When all the major apps stop adding features for a while Apple will focus on getting developers back or customers switch to Android.

Yup, that. Vote with your keyboards. Apple writes software with the same tools and languages - if they considered this stuff a problem, they'd have fixed it by now. Besides, Apple has mechanisms for feedback, and it's not open letters on GitHub.

Re: Dear Apple

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Post by usaphp »

snackai wrote: post #10

Just stop pushing apps for iProducts. When all the major apps stop adding features for a while Apple will focus on getting developers back or customers switch to Android.

It's an unrealistic advice. It's easy to say it when your income is not dependent on these apps. But if you have an app in a marketplace that pays your bills, you can't afford to risk it just because you don't like dev tools...

Re: Dear Apple

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Post by benologist »

Xcode is 14 years old and Swift is a new language with no baggage that really only needs to target iOS and has new APIs for graphics and more. Seems more likely their goal would be a much-more simplified IDE for iPads that anyone can learn that can only publish to iOS.

They also stopped making computer monitors and routers last year and haven't updated most of their computers in years.

Best reason to host WWDC outside of SF this year is so it won't be a building full of Xcode developers lol!

Re: Dear Apple

#19

Post by pg_is_a_butt »

fleshweasel wrote: post #7

It's absurd to have to beg the wealthiest software company in the world for what should be considered really basic stuff. Xcode is consistently unstable, slow, missing simple essential functionality (like refactoring), and Apple's interface builder is something that most experienced Apple devs know to run for the hills from.

so, you want your source code editor to refactor your code automatically... and you think that is "basic stuff"?

you're all idiots.

Re: Dear Apple

#20

Post by doggydogs94 »

snackai wrote: post #10

Just stop pushing apps for iProducts. When all the major apps stop adding features for a while Apple will focus on getting developers back or customers switch to Android.

Unfortunately, studies have shown that developing for iOS is much more profitable than developing for Android.
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