What about Win7 drivers? Even if the Redmond based company doesn't like marketing about it (an understatement) - please support it. (Recently AMD announced Win7 support only to remove the announcement after after a few days.) Even Intel supports Win7 with their most recent CPU as well, even if it's not officially marketed, and one has to search around for the driver.
Grab a copy of Win10 LTSB-N and get rid of Win7. It has all that annoying crap stripped out. You should be able to find a copy fairly easily floating around here and there.
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
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Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#172More importantly for some, it's a 95W AMD part vs a 140W Intel part. If the power delta stays the same even for mainstream parts, does this mean AMD will become a good quiet option too? By quiet I mean "I can't hear it at night" not "I can't hear it over the music". Edit: Also, I think data centers these days are limited in density by power delivery and cooling. Even a 25W delta adds up when you're talking about thou…
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#173More importantly for some, it's a 95W AMD part vs a 140W Intel part. If the power delta stays the same even for mainstream parts, does this mean AMD will become a good quiet option too? By quiet I mean "I can't hear it at night" not "I can't hear it over the music". Edit: Also, I think data centers these days are limited in density by power delivery and cooling. Even a 25W delta adds up when you're talking about thou…
Maybe Calyos[0] technology might interest you. Fanless and totally silent technology, here is the other Linus[1] talking about it. [0]: http://www.calyos-tm.com/calyos-fanless-pc-workstation/ [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PJOrfpiVwE
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it still true? http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-integrated-graphics-f...
>newest Intel iGPU vs two-gen old AMD iGPU, barely keeping pace Yes, it's still true. That should've been plainly obvious.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is this magic you speak of? Know of anywhere to find out more? I'd kill for a suitable equivalency to win7
To quote Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_editions ): > Windows 10 Enterprise Long Term Servicing Branch (LTSB) is similar to Windows 10 Enterprise but does not include Cortana, Windows Store, the Edge browser, Photo Viewer and the UWP version of Calculator (replaced by classic version), and will not receive any feature updates, gives companies more control over the update process. Windows 10 Ente…
If they are allowed to offer it to private customers and if any do I have no idea.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#176I'm trying to put this into perspective. AMD having temporary edge over Intel has happened before. Remember when AMD had Athlon in 1999 and they made huge $1 billion in profits. Intel's response has always been the same. They cut their profit margins and start selling chips cheaper. They undercut AMD with volume and price and suddenly AMD is in the doghouse again struggling. AMD's best efforts can cut into Intel's pr…
The last time Intel did that it was through illegal tactics - unlikely they'll get away with it a second time.
https://www.engadget.com/2014/06/12/intel-loses-eu-antitrust...
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
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Why do you need that in desktop env? What's the usecase when it can be beneficial to have expensive ECC RAM instead of the ordinary one? I was always thinking that ECC can prevent blue screens/kernel faults, but I haven't seen those in years on my laptop without ECC.
This question comes up constantly. Anybody doing anything with more than 16GB, especially data science (think all the R and Python people, all scientists), anybody running a memory cached data store (all server side people on mongo, redis, etc), and anybody doing finance or engineering, wants ECC. Basically anybody doing anything where data persistence is important, and/or where even the slightest chance of silent co…
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#178I'm trying to put this into perspective. AMD having temporary edge over Intel has happened before. Remember when AMD had Athlon in 1999 and they made huge $1 billion in profits. Intel's response has always been the same. They cut their profit margins and start selling chips cheaper. They undercut AMD with volume and price and suddenly AMD is in the doghouse again struggling. AMD's best efforts can cut into Intel's pr…
>Intel's response has always been the same. They cut their profit margins and start selling chips cheaper. They undercut AMD with volume and price and suddenly AMD is in the doghouse again struggling. AMD's best efforts can cut into Intel's profits, but Intel's response is to remove all profits from AMD until it's left behind. The last time Intel did that it was through illegal tactics - unlikely they'll get away wit…
Intel can undercut AMD lawfully if it wants. Instead of hidden rebates, Intel can openly cut prices.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
This question comes up constantly. Anybody doing anything with more than 16GB, especially data science (think all the R and Python people, all scientists), anybody running a memory cached data store (all server side people on mongo, redis, etc), and anybody doing finance or engineering, wants ECC. Basically anybody doing anything where data persistence is important, and/or where even the slightest chance of silent co…
OK, but aren't real calculations done on servers (those usually have ECC). During my PhD days we were only testing on local desktops and scheduling calculations on remote server that had a lot of RAM and CPU power.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#180These last few years Intel was much working much more on bring power consumption down than ... anything else? The performance changed little: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/13/kaby_lake_7700k_vs... 20%? But now the 15W U series mobile chips deliver the same performance as 35W M chips in the Sandy/Ivy Bridge era which is quite impressive. This, of course, leads to a tremendous advantage in server CPUs -- if yo…
I think you sum it up quite good: The thing that Intel did mostly was putting more cores on the chips. However that happenend only for the server lines. With Sandybridge and before the top desktop and server chips were nearly identical, now there's a huge difference. Which also means that during the last years the performance of desktop CPUs increased barely. That might be ok from the point of view that normal users…