That does not really make sense. Why would physics simulation and prime calculation be so much slower? I would not trust those benchmarks.
My guess would be branching behavior. The Intel branch predictor could be better for that sort of stuff.
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
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Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#12There is so much hype with AMD atm. In particular sites like WCCFTech have gone almost rabid with hype. My experience is that AMD tend to over promise with their marketing and rumours. So whilst the hype may well be warranted this time, I'm going to wait for the actual reviews to come through and take these leaks with a grain of salt.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#13Ryzen leaks conspicuously don't mention gaming or the i7-7700K. AMD may win in a very small market yet lose the mainstream.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#14What about Win7 drivers? Even if the Redmond based company doesn't like marketing about it (an understatement) - please support it. (Recently AMD announced Win7 support only to remove the announcement after after a few days.) Even Intel supports Win7 with their most recent CPU as well, even if it's not officially marketed, and one has to search around for the driver.
Windows 7 has less than 3 years of life left on it before Microsoft stops doing security patches. At that point the OS's vulnerabilities will never be patched, and no one will be able to maintain it, akin to XP, and in April we'll see Vista join XP in being unsupported.
If you want a platform you can ride ad infinium, Microsoft is the wrong boat to be in. We're using OrangePi boards for everything, since you can build Debian for them with a fully libre stack and no closed firmware.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#15Not a CPU expert here, but isn't this a comparison of AMD next gen to Intel current gen? Won't Intel have a new CPU out, too, when the Ryzen is actually released?
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#16What about Win7 drivers? Even if the Redmond based company doesn't like marketing about it (an understatement) - please support it. (Recently AMD announced Win7 support only to remove the announcement after after a few days.) Even Intel supports Win7 with their most recent CPU as well, even if it's not officially marketed, and one has to search around for the driver.
Call me selfish but I think it is more important for them to contribute to GNU/Linux and *bsd projects. I know Microsoft has a contractual obligation to support 7 for a while but I think there's next to zero chance they will reset Windows 10 and go back to Windows 7. You will need to get away from Windows 7 at some point. Better start making preparations now.
At the moment Windows 7 is number one desktop/notebook OS, it dwarfs all other operating systems (all other Windows versions incl Win8 & Win10, macOS and Linux combined)!
Win7 is superb, looks nice and works rock solid and is supported until 2020 or beyond (see XP). And then in 2020s Fuchsia/Android, or what ever OS is available and make sense for end consumer needs. (Of course *nix driver support is important too, AMD knows that)
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#17What about ECC memory? Intels desktop processors fail hard on that feature.
Why do you need that in desktop env? What's the usecase when it can be beneficial to have expensive ECC RAM instead of the ordinary one? I was always thinking that ECC can prevent blue screens/kernel faults, but I haven't seen those in years on my laptop without ECC.
The symptoms of memory corruption are much more varied (and can be much more stubtle) than BSODs. For example they can cause filesystem corruption, any random app crashes (SIGSEGV...), infinite loops, etc.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#18What about Win7 drivers? Even if the Redmond based company doesn't like marketing about it (an understatement) - please support it. (Recently AMD announced Win7 support only to remove the announcement after after a few days.) Even Intel supports Win7 with their most recent CPU as well, even if it's not officially marketed, and one has to search around for the driver.
Do you mind explaining why you prefer Windows 7 over 10?
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#19Not a CPU expert here, but isn't this a comparison of AMD next gen to Intel current gen? Won't Intel have a new CPU out, too, when the Ryzen is actually released?
Intel's new CPUs tend to be 5% faster at the same price so Ryzen should be competitive with Skylake-X.
Re: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chips A Run For It
#20Not a CPU expert here, but isn't this a comparison of AMD next gen to Intel current gen? Won't Intel have a new CPU out, too, when the Ryzen is actually released?
Ryzen is not "next gen" anymore. It will be released in less than two weeks. Not enough time for Intel to come up with anything groundbreaking.