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Re: Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions will be supported

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Post by to3m » Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 4:20 PM UTC

leesalminen wrote: post #7

Is it just me or are Chrome's dev tools superior in every way to FF?

My recollection is that both are as bad as each other: spiteful UI with 1 watch window and a fixed window layout. Dear people - start demanding more from your tools.

Going back on topic, I've stuck with Firefox for years because of DownThemAll and Firefox Sync. But I stopped using sync a couple of years ago, so that just left DownThemAll... which won't work after this change. So I'll probably leave Firefox behind. Safari supopsedly gives you better battery life on OS X, and Chrome is more popular (i.e., people probably test their stuff on it).

Re: Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions will be supported

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Post by exceptione » Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 4:20 PM UTC

Ouch, the comments over there are extremely negative. As mozilla is our last bastion of hope between advertising giants it pains me to see mozilla having an increasingly hard time to sustain a positive brand image.

It is crazy if you think about it, because Mozilla is the last giant that respects its users. It has a very good proposition with regards to privacy and user-interest alignment.

There are still tons of less-then-smartª people using Chrome. I blame Mozilla for not doing any smart marketing at all.

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ª Its fair to call it that way. You use a browser more than a car. Yet people do research before buying a car and carefully weigh the downsides versus the upsides. But not for their most important software application in their lifes.

Re: Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions will be supported

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Post by richardboegli » Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 4:21 PM UTC

darkengine wrote: post #9

cosarara97 wrote: post #2

IMO Firefox has just 2 things to beat Chrome: better add-ons (like treestyle tabs) and politics (made by Mozilla instead of an ads company). They are burning the first one.

If Firefox 56 is the last release to support Tree Style Tabs, it will be the last release of Firefox before I begrudgingly switch to Chromium.

Try Pale Moon. It has Tree Style Tabs and will continue to even after Firefox gets rid of XUL

Re: Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions will be supported

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Post by hasenj » Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 4:21 PM UTC

exceptione wrote: post #12

Ouch, the comments over there are extremely negative. As mozilla is our last bastion of hope between advertising giants it pains me to see mozilla having an increasingly hard time to sustain a positive brand image. It is crazy if you think about it, because Mozilla is the last giant that respects its users. It has a very good proposition with regards to privacy and user-interest alignment. There are still tons of les…

Implying people who use Chrome are stupid is .. not a very nice thing to say.

Re: Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions will be supported

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Post by richardboegli » Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 4:21 PM UTC

Tree1993 wrote: post #4

imron wrote: post #3

I use Firefox because of 2 things: 1) vimperator 2) single process handling multiple tabs (I typically have upwards of 40 tabs open at a time) Firefox is in the process of removing plugins like 1) so that it makes it possible to remove 2). Wonderful.

Is there a way we can continue use these classic addon?

Pale Moon

Re: Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions will be supported

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Post by darklajid » Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 4:23 PM UTC

Tree1993 wrote: post #4

imron wrote: post #3

I use Firefox because of 2 things: 1) vimperator 2) single process handling multiple tabs (I typically have upwards of 40 tabs open at a time) Firefox is in the process of removing plugins like 1) so that it makes it possible to remove 2). Wonderful.

Is there a way we can continue use these classic addon?

You can use the LTS (Extended Support Release? Not sure about the Mozilla terminology) version. For a while..

Re: Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions will be supported

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Post by detaro » Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 4:23 PM UTC

November 14th. I really hope they get the promised additional APIs in order until then, but it seems like a really short time (given how they are not 1:1 Chrome yet last I checked). I personally don't mind the switch to much (since I really want better performance, and the beginning of e10s has helped, and I don't care much about non-trivial add-ons), but it's clear the promise of "We'll make new APIs for add-ons that need them" was important.

Re: Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions will be supported

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 4:23 PM UTC

moron4hire wrote: post #6

cosarara97 wrote: post #2

IMO Firefox has just 2 things to beat Chrome: better add-ons (like treestyle tabs) and politics (made by Mozilla instead of an ads company). They are burning the first one.

Mozilla may not be an ads company, but they make the vast majority of their money from giving space to ads companies.

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Re: Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions will be supported

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Post by richardboegli » Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 4:23 PM UTC

to3m wrote: post #11

leesalminen wrote: post #7

Is it just me or are Chrome's dev tools superior in every way to FF?

My recollection is that both are as bad as each other: spiteful UI with 1 watch window and a fixed window layout. Dear people - start demanding more from your tools. Going back on topic, I've stuck with Firefox for years because of DownThemAll and Firefox Sync. But I stopped using sync a couple of years ago, so that just left DownThemAll... which won't work after this change. So I'll probably leave Firefox behind. Sa…

DownloadThemAll will work now and into the future with Pale Moon.

Re: Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions will be supported

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Post by exceptione » Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 4:24 PM UTC

hasenj wrote: post #14

exceptione wrote: post #12

Ouch, the comments over there are extremely negative. As mozilla is our last bastion of hope between advertising giants it pains me to see mozilla having an increasingly hard time to sustain a positive brand image. It is crazy if you think about it, because Mozilla is the last giant that respects its users. It has a very good proposition with regards to privacy and user-interest alignment. There are still tons of les…

Implying people who use Chrome are stupid is .. not a very nice thing to say.

You are right. I did and do not say every chrome user is stupid, there might be legitimate use-cases. But the vast amount of people just install chrome or get it side-loaded with some freeware and don't even think about their options and the impact of their choice. Now that is less than smart.