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Re: YouTube to stop 30-second unskippable ads

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Post by lucideer »

saurik wrote: post #78
lucideer wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have literally never heard of Youtube Red before reading this commend. Granted, I live in Ireland, where it's seemingly unavailable but... why isn't this promoted more widely?

You seem to have answered your own question, but you live in Ireland, where it's unavailable: if you live in a place where it is available, it is difficult to not know about it, because YouTube tries to up-sell you on it with house ads.

Perhaps, but I get very little of my knowledge from ads, and probably most of it from non-Irish media, blogs, and similar sources, hence my surprise.

This is the first time I've seen the service mentioned on HN, which seems surprising in itself.

Re: YouTube to stop 30-second unskippable ads

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Post by ue_ »

Rumudiez wrote: post #53
maqr wrote: post #42

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Look, my time is valuable. I decide what media to play based on my preferences. If I don't want to see ads, why would I instruct my browser to play them? If giving out free videos isn't a sustainable business model, change your business model. No amount of shame will ever be effective in getting me to turn off my adblocker. Sorry if this offends you.

For being such a bunch of stingy capitalists, it's always surprising to see people defend businesses without viable models. If hosting content online for free isn't working for you, maybe that's not a commercial space worth occupying. Not everything deserves to be paid for, "selfish" or not. Users, aka "the market," will decide if your product is usable despite the income generating parts. Marginally related, if your…

>For being such a bunch of stingy capitalists, it's always surprising to see people defend businesses without viable models.

Perhaps I don't do it personally because I'm a Communist.

Re: YouTube to stop 30-second unskippable ads

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Post by ue_ »

Veratyr wrote: post #83
lightbyte wrote: post #39

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>Look, bandwidth costs money. You're right, and I already paid for it with my ISP. I only get a set amount of data each month, so you can be sure I'm going to block 100% of the ads I can to stop them from wasting my limited bandwidth.

> You're right, and I already paid for it with my ISP. No, you paid for bandwidth from your ISP to you. Your ISP doesn't pay anyone else for traffic. YouTube also has to pay your ISP and that cost is made up from ads.

I don't see why it's my responsibility to see Youtube makes money. If they didn't want me to consume the content, they would have a model in which you can't view the content without subscribing for a fee. And yet Google knows about adblockers and continues this model, suggesting that they are fine with people skipping the ads. I assume you do not download things you do not want, so I am merely doing the same thing.

But even that is beside the point. I believe it's fine for me to access whatever information that people release. I see no moral problem here, and I will choose what the bandwidth I pay for is spent on.

Re: YouTube to stop 30-second unskippable ads

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Post by rchaud »

Adblockers have kept YT totally-ad free on desktop for years. I'm surprised Google hasn't found a workaround for this. I rarely access the Youtube app because of the constant ads; plus, I don't find the mobile experience to be as good as the desktop one.

Re: YouTube to stop 30-second unskippable ads

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Post by rchaud »

vvggff wrote: post #26
vonuebelgarten wrote: post #20

> Ads shorter than 30-seconds, including the 20-second spots, can be made unskippable. uBlock Origin will continue to serve me well.

Look, bandwidth costs money. If you don't want to see ads, just subscribe to Youtube red. Don't be an asshole.

Nothing's stopping Google from simply charging people to access Youtube. The reason they don't do it is because YT offers network effects and user lock-in that have significant economic benefits. I trust that a large corporation with some of the smartest minds in the world working there would have changed the YT business model if they were worried about their bandwidth costs.

Re: YouTube to stop 30-second unskippable ads

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Post by rchaud »

lucideer wrote: post #73
zeta0134 wrote: post #67

You know, I really wish I could buy Youtube Red for my friends more easily. It drives me up the wall when one of them is watching youtube and some obnoxious ad plays at 2x the volume of anything else they've been doing. I already pay for Youtube Red myself primarily because I hate video / audio advertising with a passion, but I can't control what anyone else in the room does with their money I guess. Advertising is t…

I have literally never heard of Youtube Red before reading this commend. Granted, I live in Ireland, where it's seemingly unavailable but... why isn't this promoted more widely?

Because Google today is Microsoft from the late 90s-mid 2000s; a million projects in every single possible market, with little to no unification across the commmon platform. Android OS alone has no less than 3 Google-made messaging apps: Hangouts, Allo and Duo.

Re: YouTube to stop 30-second unskippable ads

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Post by rchaud »

imglorp wrote: post #31
mikeash wrote: post #13

YouTube ads wouldn't bug me nearly as much if there was some more variety. I must have seen the same stupid MileIQ ad a thousand times by now. Surely they have more content available than this?

That's the hulu strategy. Wear you down with such low quality, repetitive ads you'll beg for the adfree upgrade.

That's the Spotify strategy as well, at least when they're advertising their own premium service to free-tier users. They intentionally make the audio ads have the worst possible narrators and background music.

Re: YouTube to stop 30-second unskippable ads

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Post by waqf »

stingraycharles wrote: post #47
notatoad wrote: post #33

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This is one thing that youtube does really well though - on some other sketchy video player you never know whether the video will play even if the ad will (the worst is when don't let you know you're geo-blocked until after playing their ad) but on youtube the video always plays just as well as the ads for me.

That's because Youtube natively integrates the pre-roll into its video player, while it's far easier for ad servers to just wrap the entire video player itself and (temporarily) replace it with their ad content. Not saying it's right, but it's just the status quo of the moment.

The status quando, perhaps — or the Zeitstand.

Re: YouTube to stop 30-second unskippable ads

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Post by Neliquat »

imchillyb wrote: post #54
imglorp wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the hulu strategy. Wear you down with such low quality, repetitive ads you'll beg for the adfree upgrade.

That's the hulu strategy. Wear you down with such low quality, repetitive ads you'll...stop using their service. FTFY!

Yup, just felt like cable again. Cancelled and have not looked back. Their 'network' programming is forgettable and mostly filler.

Re: YouTube to stop 30-second unskippable ads

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Post by fjdlwlv »

waqf wrote: post #118
stingraycharles wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because Youtube natively integrates the pre-roll into its video player, while it's far easier for ad servers to just wrap the entire video player itself and (temporarily) replace it with their ad content. Not saying it's right, but it's just the status quo of the moment.

The status quando , perhaps — or the Zeitstand.

What does that mean?
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