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Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

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Re: Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

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Post by dragonwriter »

vorotato wrote: post #89
EJTH wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wierd how Sharia is not extremism as it encourages death for apostacy among other harsh rules...

Doesn't the bible? Exodus 35:2 " For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death." Most Christians will interpret this in an enlightened way, either death meaning "spiritual death" or some other explanation. However if you are a biblical literalist, I mean the bible encourages death for nonbelievers, among ot…

Many, perhaps most, Christians (especially Biblical literalists) would also point out that Acts (particularly 15:22-29) explicitly states that requirements and penalties of the Jewish law, but for a short list of enumerated exceptions, do not apply to non-Jews (particularly, non-Jewish Christians), only Jews (whether or not they are actually Christians), whether or not they also view the penalty in an "enlightened" way where it does apply.

Re: Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

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Post by SadWebDeveloper »

tjbiddle wrote: post #74
SadWebDeveloper wrote: post #68

I hate facebook not because of this bullshit but because using facebook is so utterly "normal" on the society that some websites are facebook-exclusives (facebook login only), people only seems to like the idea of using the fucking facebook chat for everything and now even customs ask you to unlock your phone so they can analyze your friends... hoping one day, some terrorist attacks facebook servers so we can get rid…

What customs have you gone through where they do that? I travel internationally regularly and have yet to come across this.

https://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2017/02/nasa-scientist...

Re: Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

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Post by soundwave106 »

tokenizer wrote: post #46

> So the trending news section went from left leaning legitimate news stories under human editors to a bunch of spam. Geex, let me guess. You are left leaning too! People like me think mainstream media promotes the most fake news. So it's dangerous to censor any news, being that Truth is a hot topic these days. Disagree? I have plenty of evidence... http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1487334551064.jpg http://i.4cdn.org/pol/148733…

In the correct usage of the term, "fake news" does not refer to partisan opinion. It refers to sites that completely made up stories or conspiracy theory peddling, often with click-bait friendly headlines.

Natural News for instance is a widely cited "fake news" site -- it basically denies the science-based medical community in favor of an "alternative" form of medical quackery, often with a huge dose of "establishment" paranoia and conspiracy theory. (It is not surprise that Natural News is owned by someone who sells supplements and alternative medicine.)

So, for instance, a political decision by the India government that affected the Bill and Melinda Gates vaccination program over there, largely to diminish a perception of foreign meddling more than anything else (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-health-bmgf-idUSKBN1...) gets turned an implication that Bill and Melinda Gates are killing hundreds of girls in India with an HPV vaccine that contains "extreme side effects" (http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-02-14-india-tosses-out-gates...). The only "proof" Natural News offers is provided by links to the front page of several other suspicious conspiracy-theory websites.

This is the type of thing easily seen as "fake news". I don't think there's anything even in heavily partisan media (your Fox News and Huffington Posts) that come as close to having as many falsehoods, let alone in more sober media.

I really dislike how "fake news" has come to represent "news that has a different opinion than mine", because that was not what the original context was about.

Re: Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

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Post by dang »

tokenizer wrote: post #46

> So the trending news section went from left leaning legitimate news stories under human editors to a bunch of spam. Geex, let me guess. You are left leaning too! People like me think mainstream media promotes the most fake news. So it's dangerous to censor any news, being that Truth is a hot topic these days. Disagree? I have plenty of evidence... http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1487334551064.jpg http://i.4cdn.org/pol/148733…

Please don't post partisan rants to HN. These topics are flamebait; by going full combustion you amplify the destructive effect when you ought to be dampening it. Regardless of your politics, the only kind of discussion we want here is thoughtful.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13667018 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

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Post by pnutjam »

mirkules wrote: post #61
kybernetyk wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon is a similar offender. "Oh, you bought a fridge yesterday? How about you buy another one?"

Actually,the really creepy thing about Amazon is that if I use their iPhone app to browse for stuff I get ads on my Facebook account for the stuff I searched. Mind you, I am near tinfoil-level conscious of "cross contamination". I use Firefox on iOS for Facebook, and I never use it for any other browsing other than FB. My name is not my real name on FB, and it's written in a non-latin alphabet. I never discuss produc…

Try it with a vpn, I use airVPN, https://airvpn.org/?referred_by=287899. There are plenty of alternatives.

Re: Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

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Post by lukevdp »

dragonwriter wrote: post #91
vorotato wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't the bible? Exodus 35:2 " For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death." Most Christians will interpret this in an enlightened way, either death meaning "spiritual death" or some other explanation. However if you are a biblical literalist, I mean the bible encourages death for nonbelievers, among ot…

Many, perhaps most, Christians ( especially Biblical literalists) would also point out that Acts (particularly 15:22-29) explicitly states that requirements and penalties of the Jewish law, but for a short list of enumerated exceptions, do not apply to non-Jews (particularly, non-Jewish Christians), only Jews (whether or not they are actually Christians), whether or not they also view the penalty in an "enlightened"…

So, they cherry pick. I don't know anything about Sharia but I'm sure there are lots of cherry pickers among its followers as well.

Re: Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

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Post by RodericDay »

disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #69
RodericDay wrote: post #50

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If you're scanning the URL for malware, why wouldn't you pick up some data mining info for the involved users while at it?

Because that takes (a lot) more effort, and you're on a schedule?

Yeah but you make money if you do, even if you spend the resources. This is not really a convincing answer.

Re: Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

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Post by mirkules »

cosmie wrote: post #90
mirkules wrote: post #85

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Thanks for that link. It says Amazon has my contact info, but I'm not sure what they could have that ties my Amazon identity to my Facebook identity. I use a different email, different name, no phone number, no address on FB... I don't get it. It would be good if FB said what info they have.

I agree that it'd be nice to know which data point was used for audience building. > I use a different email, different name, no phone number, no address on FB... I don't get it. Not sure if phone number can be used for audience targeting (it's not available to self-service, normal advertisers iirc). But wanted to clarify this part. Just because you haven't added it in no way means that Facebook doesn't have your pho…

Interesting. Now that I think of it, for the last few months FB has been relentlessly trying to get me to associate my phone number with my account - and they even display it in Firefox (which was surprising that a browser could pull a phone number). After what you said, I wouldn't be surprised if they associated it anyway.

Re: Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

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Post by zbyte64 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #91
vorotato wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't the bible? Exodus 35:2 " For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death." Most Christians will interpret this in an enlightened way, either death meaning "spiritual death" or some other explanation. However if you are a biblical literalist, I mean the bible encourages death for nonbelievers, among ot…

Many, perhaps most, Christians ( especially Biblical literalists) would also point out that Acts (particularly 15:22-29) explicitly states that requirements and penalties of the Jewish law, but for a short list of enumerated exceptions, do not apply to non-Jews (particularly, non-Jewish Christians), only Jews (whether or not they are actually Christians), whether or not they also view the penalty in an "enlightened"…

If we are trully being literal, the 10 commandments only applies to the Jews as well. Gentiles only had to follow Noahide laws which doesn't even require worship or acknowledgement of the one true God. They tend to leave those bits out.

Re: Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

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Post by omidraha »

I think, there is no `private` section on the social network, everything is public, just accessing to that section is limited for someone or one scope and not for other one. But scope of this accessing is growing through the time, without we know about that. For example, from small circle of our friends or family to the whole of the world.
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