Imagine everyone starts doing this. Would they start to ask for your FB/Gmail login credentials?
That's illegal, unlike unlocking your phone, according to what I recently read.
I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again. Neither should you
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
My thought was actually to shut it off and pack it in my luggage so it's not with me through security. I won't see it until I reach the baggage claim.
Customs inspect checked luggage.
FedEx. You're without phone for a day, but still easier than being without a phone for an entire (possibly business related) trip.
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#53"I'll never carry my phone when entering the US from abroad again. Neither should you"
He mentioned other countries moving towards this kind of thing, and if you look around then that wouldn't be surprising for places like the UK as well.
But that's completely speculative, there is no documented instance of another country doing the same at the moment.
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#54This article says "It’s totally legal for a US Customs and Border Patrol officer to ask you to unlock your phone and hand it over to them. And they can detain you indefinitely if you don’t. Even if you’re a American citizen. [...] Barring the use of “excessive force,” agents can do whatever they want to you." and "[I]t’s illegal in most countries to profile individual travelers" I don't think any of these things is a…
Here's the problem with after-the-fact rulings, or even with trying to call that out if you get stopped like this..
Most people who cross a border are on their way somewhere and have a limited window of time to spend at the border until the delay incurs a very unreasonable financial or scheduling hardship..
Either missing a flight, or hotel, or vacation booking, or business meeting, etc..
So while you may be within your rights to argue and resist these unreasonable searches, they come at a price that border control knows/expects most people will not be prepared to pay.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
He mentioned other countries moving towards this kind of thing, and if you look around then that wouldn't be surprising for places like the UK as well.
But that's completely speculative, there is no documented instance of another country doing the same at the moment.
Canada has done it (it's even linked in the article).
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don't cooperate, they don't have to let you into the country. They can simply tell you to turn around and go somewhere else.
For non-citizens, yes. But they cannot deny entry for US citizens, and they cannot detain citizens indefinitely.
I suppose an interesting form of DoS protest would be to have a large group of people refuse to unlock their phones and take up all of the space in the customs holding cells.
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#57I also wonder if this will have an impact on the camera market as I'm sure there are more like me who no longer own a separate photo/video camera.
Hah, I do, and I'm actually going up to Canada tomorrow with both phone and camera. I've never had an issue at the border where they've gone through my digital devices, however.
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#58This article says "It’s totally legal for a US Customs and Border Patrol officer to ask you to unlock your phone and hand it over to them. And they can detain you indefinitely if you don’t. Even if you’re a American citizen. [...] Barring the use of “excessive force,” agents can do whatever they want to you." and "[I]t’s illegal in most countries to profile individual travelers" I don't think any of these things is a…
It's not that I don't believe you but there are numerous examples of Canadians who have been denied entry to the United States because they refused to allow CBP to access digital devices or they allowed it but had 'incriminating evidence' like Muslim prayer videos or photos taken from areas in conflict as part of photojournalist work.
Also afaik, the ACLU has lost cases pertaining to defending liberties at the border
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#59I'm thinking not bringing the phone or deleting all apps before landing won't help much if they ask you to login into your accounts on a computer (or stay detained for hours if you refuse or claim that you don't use facebook/email, your pick).
Can they even ask you to do that? My understanding was searching your phone is allowed because that's treated similarly to searching your luggage. But you're not carrying your facebook or email accounts with you, so I don't see why they'd have any right whatsoever to demand to "search" your facebook/email.
Or is this something they've already started doing? And if so, what makes it legal?
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#60"I'll never carry my phone when entering the US from abroad again. Neither should you"
"I'll never enter the US again[1]." Works for me, sorry for the people who don't have a choice though.
[1]I was going to say "for the next four years", but this problem is bigger than Trump.