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Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by Markoff »

punjabisingh wrote: post #12

Great effort. I see some broken images here: http://www.moviechat.org/movies/search?name=westworld I'm surprised there isn't enough interest in people to recognize tMDB as relevant. Especially since iMDB is ignoring users by taking down the forums.

agreed on second part that TMDb is the only real alternative, it has information about each movie and TV show, discussion for each of them and you can even import there your IMDb ratings and watchlist, plus is run since 2008 and edited by its users plus developer is very responsive and provide API free of charge

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by Jaruzel »

Markoff wrote: post #46

thank you for helping further fragmentation of IMDb alternatives by creating dumb forum like tons of other generic forums when there is REAL alternative movie database with discussions for each movie called The Movie database themoviedb.org run since 2008 and edited by its own users like Wikipedia it's nice you created searchable archive of IMDb discussions though guys at Archive are doing same anyway, not posing as…

You are fully within your legal right (based on most countries data protection laws - I do not know where you are), to reach out to MovieChat.org and request formally your data be deleted. If it bothers you that much, I fully recommend you do so.

However, surely rule #1 of the internet is, once you've posted it, it's out there forever. Are you going to go around to every cache server, and everyone's browser cache and demand that your comments be deleted from there as well ?

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by Markoff »

CM30 wrote: post #8

It's a good start. I mean, you've got the data from the original IMDB boards all laid out and accessible, so that's better than most alternatives at the moment. However, I'm curious about exactly how you're going to promote this site. The people currently on IMDB likely don't know much about it, and it's unlikely the administration there will redirect people over when they view the pages for a movie or TV show on the…

why would i participate on dumb backup of database, done without my consent (OP stole 14 years of my posts), when I can go to proper movie database with discussions, imported ratings and watchlist from IMDb, called TMDb (themoviedb.org)

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

#54

Post by Markoff »

5_minutes wrote: post #22
karim wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Jim – thanks for doing that! I'm curious, how did you back up IMDB's message boards? Did you scrape the whole website or were you able to find a data dump?

I wanted to ask this too. Did you scrape it or did it via some api? Anyway, cool project, wish you all the best with it.

illegally scraped,IMDb doesn't have API for this and automated scraping OP done is against their TOS, not mentioning without consent of users, for instance stole 14 years worth of my posts

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by Markoff »

Jaruzel wrote: post #52
Markoff wrote: post #46

thank you for helping further fragmentation of IMDb alternatives by creating dumb forum like tons of other generic forums when there is REAL alternative movie database with discussions for each movie called The Movie database themoviedb.org run since 2008 and edited by its own users like Wikipedia it's nice you created searchable archive of IMDb discussions though guys at Archive are doing same anyway, not posing as…

You are fully within your legal right (based on most countries data protection laws - I do not know where you are), to reach out to MovieChat.org and request formally your data be deleted. If it bothers you that much, I fully recommend you do so. However, surely rule #1 of the internet is, once you've posted it, it's out there forever. Are you going to go around to every cache server, and everyone's browser cache and…

should not it be the other way? first he should have consent to publish that data and not that he illegally copy data and publish them and i must perform some action when he did some illegal?

as much as i hate IMDb shutting down boards i hope they will close this illegal website

OTOH i have no problem with recognized Archive.org instead of this solo thief

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

#56

Post by tokenizerrr »

Jaruzel wrote: post #47
OldSchoolJohnny wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish! Windows servers is an excellent excuse to not have it. Two years running now there still isn't a practical solution for Windows servers and none in sight for the foreseeable future.

I totally agree with this. I am not comfortable running a daily, task scheduler based, third party script with local admin rights, on my Windows Server, that checks my Lets Encrypt certs and auto renews them. However, now that Chrome v56+ is revoking StartSSL.com certs, I've probably got no choice. Either that, or actually PAY for a multi-domain cert (Comodo do a fairly cheap one).

> third party script with local admin rights

Why? Just have it drop the certs in some directory and then reload the services. Just give the account running the script permissions to only reload services.

I assume such is possible on Windows, but I don't know for sure because I only use Linux servers. It is trivial there, so I assume you can do it on Windows as well.

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

#57

Post by techer »

Markoff wrote: post #50
dirkg wrote: post #24

Thank you!! To my knowledge this is the only instance someone has managed to scrape the Imdb boards, very curious how you managed that. I really hope you get a sponsor/donations. This needs to be promoted to other sites/social media and I will do my part. I do have one request - can we do this for actors as well?

promoting illegally copied content of users without their consent? for what's it worth, he copied 14 years of my posts and I don't like it

Take a deep breath.

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by waynecolvin »

anilgulecha wrote: post #41
JimSmith84 wrote: post #30

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Yeah that's definitely something I could do. Are there any proposed projects you know of that could benefit from this type of data?

Everything from simple sentiment analysis, to archive.org, to another mirror. I hope that does not discourage you from releasing the data. Edit: I see the other comment about archive team already collecting and releasing this data, for free in an open format. I think that will be a good first source as well.

I think the priority was to reenable discussion of new movies and TV shows, that would be useful moving forward. But maybe they could make an API.

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by Jaruzel »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #56
Jaruzel wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally agree with this. I am not comfortable running a daily, task scheduler based, third party script with local admin rights, on my Windows Server, that checks my Lets Encrypt certs and auto renews them. However, now that Chrome v56+ is revoking StartSSL.com certs, I've probably got no choice. Either that, or actually PAY for a multi-domain cert (Comodo do a fairly cheap one).

> third party script with local admin rights Why? Just have it drop the certs in some directory and then reload the services. Just give the account running the script permissions to only reload services. I assume such is possible on Windows, but I don't know for sure because I only use Linux servers. It is trivial there, so I assume you can do it on Windows as well.

It's not unfortunately - Certs are held in the Computer partition of the Windows Credential Store, which you need elevated rights to update. It sucks, but that's how it's designed. You also need to re-associate the renewed cert (once its in the credential store) with the IIS binding as well, and then you can stop/start the website instance. Again also needing elevated rights.
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