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U.S. motor vehicle deaths see biggest two year jump in over 50 years, per NSC

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Re: U.S. motor vehicle deaths see biggest two year jump in over 50 years, per NSC

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also conducted a survey that indicates some possible causes for the steady increases, including speed, texting via touch input or voice, as well as driving while under the influence. I think most of it can be attributed to cellphone usage while driving. And now that most drivers choose to use their smartphones as GPS rather than a dedicated GPS device, I think it's going to get much worse.

Distracted driving could be come epidemic if not curtailed somehow.

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"it does advise accelerated standardization and introduction of features including automatic emergency warning, blind spot monitoring and lane departure warning systems" If these things actually made a difference wouldn't vehicle deaths be falling unless some other change is offsetting the difference?

unless some other change is offsetting the difference? FTA: "Many studies and observers cite the rise of mobile devices and their growing role in our lives as a possible cause behind the recent spike in traffic fatalities." Anecdotally, in my area, teens often receive the current family car (which is often 8+ years old), or one of the families secondary vehicles. Then another vehicle is purchased for the parents, oft…

But that's always been the case, and today's 8 year old car is safer then it was 10 or 20 years ago, so I wouldn't think this was causing an upward trend.

Re: U.S. motor vehicle deaths see biggest two year jump in over 50 years, per NSC

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"it does advise accelerated standardization and introduction of features including automatic emergency warning, blind spot monitoring and lane departure warning systems" If these things actually made a difference wouldn't vehicle deaths be falling unless some other change is offsetting the difference?

unless some other change is offsetting the difference? FTA: "Many studies and observers cite the rise of mobile devices and their growing role in our lives as a possible cause behind the recent spike in traffic fatalities." Anecdotally, in my area, teens often receive the current family car (which is often 8+ years old), or one of the families secondary vehicles. Then another vehicle is purchased for the parents, oft…

There isn't much of a difference in the safety of the average 8-year old vehicle, and a brand new one.

Re: U.S. motor vehicle deaths see biggest two year jump in over 50 years, per NSC

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post #7

also conducted a survey that indicates some possible causes for the steady increases, including speed, texting via touch input or voice, as well as driving while under the influence. I think most of it can be attributed to cellphone usage while driving. And now that most drivers choose to use their smartphones as GPS rather than a dedicated GPS device, I think it's going to get much worse.

I think GPS is secondary: you can easily get a mount for it.

Based on experience, the most likely explanation is texting or voice calls. When I got a new car with bluetooth calling, all of a sudden I was fumbling a lot less. A call is now about the same level of distraction as having a passenger or 2.

Texting however, I have no idea. Maybe something that moves texting to voice, but I haven't seen anything actually make that work. And, it's distracting enough that I just don't text while driving: sending ETA updates or w/e isn't worth risking my life over.

Re: U.S. motor vehicle deaths see biggest two year jump in over 50 years, per NSC

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post #7

also conducted a survey that indicates some possible causes for the steady increases, including speed, texting via touch input or voice, as well as driving while under the influence. I think most of it can be attributed to cellphone usage while driving. And now that most drivers choose to use their smartphones as GPS rather than a dedicated GPS device, I think it's going to get much worse.

I think some of it must be an unintended consequence of usage bans. People still do it, they just keep the phone out of sight, and this keeps their concentration off the road for longer. (And of course you can't type by feel on a virtual keyboard.)

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I haven't found a link to less generalized data. What were road/traffic/driver conditions in the fatal accidents? Were there more accidents, or were accidents themselves more fatal? What percentage of fatalities involved a semi? Happened on freeways? What if climate change is the culprit? Road conditions have deterioriated as a result of changing weather patterns. Drivers have deteriorated as mobile devices become mo…

Unfortunately there isn't a standard way to collect this data on a national level. Believe it or not its up to that local jurisdiction, or State (in the case of state patrol) to dictate what information they gather and how it is gathered. This makes comparisons and real statistical analysis quite difficult.

Source: I'm in the traffic safety industry.

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Does anyone know if (and where) it's possible to download a data set of all car accidents (or just fatals) for the last few years? I'd like to see things like date and time, weather conditions, lat/lon, make and model of cars involved, etc.

Re: U.S. motor vehicle deaths see biggest two year jump in over 50 years, per NSC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

unless some other change is offsetting the difference? FTA: "Many studies and observers cite the rise of mobile devices and their growing role in our lives as a possible cause behind the recent spike in traffic fatalities." Anecdotally, in my area, teens often receive the current family car (which is often 8+ years old), or one of the families secondary vehicles. Then another vehicle is purchased for the parents, oft…

There isn't much of a difference in the safety of the average 8-year old vehicle, and a brand new one.

.. for passengers.

Today's car may have collision avoiding systems, which could protect pedestrians.

Re: U.S. motor vehicle deaths see biggest two year jump in over 50 years, per NSC

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automated enforcement for speed limit violations That is a concerning recommendation. How would this be achieved? GPS tracking? Speed limit cameras? Both methods can have serious privacy implications.

Automated enforcement of speed limit violations would be fine, as long as our speed limits were adjusted for strict enforcement versus human enforcement.

Almost everyone will drive 35-40 in a 30, but you could make a case that anyone breaking 45-50mph for more than a few seconds should automatically get a ticket. Even better, the automated enforcement could account for actual danger, using road conditions, traffic density, and pedestrians: you can do 15+ if the road is empty, but you had better slow way down for a stroller in the crosswalk, etc.

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