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Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by huac »

sergers wrote: post #5
JimSmith84 wrote: post #2

Hi Everyone, My name’s Jim, and I created MovieChat.org as an archive and replacement for IMDB’s message boards which are shutting down this week. For those of you not familiar, the IMDb message boards allowed you to discuss any single movie or tv show with others (there was a separate forum for each movie/show). IMDb recently announced they were shutting down the message boards and its users were furious (there's a…

Hi thanks for posting, looks like it has some potential. one item i didnt like is that if i search for a show, i get hits for each episode. would be good to have one entry per show, and then you can drill down into individual episodes. also would be good feature on ability to rate shows (as a registered user, but i guess IMDB is still offering that functionality)

So basically reimplement IMDB?

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by punjabisingh »

Great effort. I see some broken images here: http://www.moviechat.org/movies/search?name=westworld

I'm surprised there isn't enough interest in people to recognize tMDB as relevant. Especially since iMDB is ignoring users by taking down the forums.

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by carussell »

dewey wrote: post #9

Please add https, now with Let's encrypt there's really no excuse to not have it.

Let's Encrypt can still be pretty convoluted and is not headache-free, even using the officially anointed tools.

Despite your comment and the (well-intentioned) plans from browser vendors to do what they can to squash unencrypted HTTP, failure to use HTTPS, even with Let's Encrypt, is still a totally forgivable sin today.

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by dewey »

carussell wrote: post #13
dewey wrote: post #9

Please add https, now with Let's encrypt there's really no excuse to not have it.

Let's Encrypt can still be pretty convoluted and is not headache-free, even using the officially anointed tools. Despite your comment and the (well-intentioned) plans from browser vendors to do what they can to squash unencrypted HTTP, failure to use HTTPS, even with Let's Encrypt, is still a totally forgivable sin today.

I disagree, by just running https://caddyserver.com/ you would automatically have a https site up in seconds and it can be used as a reverse proxy too.

With nginx:

- `certbot certonly`

- press `2`

- type in your domain name

- press return, done

Add a few lines to your nginx config, done.

``` ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live//fullchain.pem; ssl_certificate_key /etc/letsencrypt/live//privkey.pem; ssl on; ```

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by Guest98123 »

JimSmith84 wrote: post #7
otoburb wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for this. I'm curious if IMDB considers their (soon to be former) forum posts under copyright, or if you already have a plan in place. One actually hopes that IMDB doesn't in fact have any claim on posts written by users that happened to be hosted on their site.

Yeah that's a good question. Before I became an engineer I practiced IP/copyright law. Also spoke (colloquially) with a few ppl at the company. I did my homework before starting this project and I'm confident we're in a good position :)

Could you explain why you think you're in a good position? From what I understand, the comments are owned by the users, and by posting them to IMDb, they allowed IMDb and their affiliates the right to use them.

The users did not give you permission to use their data, and you're not associated with IMDb, and therefore do not inherit the rights.

Lastly, IMDb specifically states that scraping or extracting data is forbidden without written consent.

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by pmarreck »

dewey wrote: post #14
carussell wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's Encrypt can still be pretty convoluted and is not headache-free, even using the officially anointed tools. Despite your comment and the (well-intentioned) plans from browser vendors to do what they can to squash unencrypted HTTP, failure to use HTTPS, even with Let's Encrypt, is still a totally forgivable sin today.

I disagree, by just running https://caddyserver.com/ you would automatically have a https site up in seconds and it can be used as a reverse proxy too. With nginx: - `certbot certonly` - press `2` - type in your domain name - press return, done Add a few lines to your nginx config, done. ``` ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/ /fullchain.pem; ssl_certificate_key /etc/letsencrypt/live/ /privkey.pem; ssl on; ```

yeah but that's a webserver almost no one has heard of and may not even be in a position to switch to

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by otoburb »

JimSmith84 wrote: post #7
otoburb wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for this. I'm curious if IMDB considers their (soon to be former) forum posts under copyright, or if you already have a plan in place. One actually hopes that IMDB doesn't in fact have any claim on posts written by users that happened to be hosted on their site.

Yeah that's a good question. Before I became an engineer I practiced IP/copyright law. Also spoke (colloquially) with a few ppl at the company. I did my homework before starting this project and I'm confident we're in a good position :)

>>Before I became an engineer I practiced IP/copyright law.

I'm sure there's a story there since I would have thought the usual direction, even for a small aggregate number of eventual engineer-patent attorney pairings, would be reversed. Hopefully you can post an "About Us" on MovieChat.org at some point when you feel comfortable. Thanks!

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by WayneBro »

Thanks for making this. Some suggestions:

- How about linking back to the IMDB page for each movie?

- It would be great if you displayed various ratings from IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes and elsewhere kind of like JustWatch.com does (but with links to those ratings pages).

- Actually, it would be really cool if you linked to a JustWatch search too so the user can easily see if the movie is streaming anywhere that they subscribe to.

Another crazy thought - a merger with JustWatch would be awesome too (but I really wish JustWatch would also link back to IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, etc).

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by dewey »

pmarreck wrote: post #16
dewey wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree, by just running https://caddyserver.com/ you would automatically have a https site up in seconds and it can be used as a reverse proxy too. With nginx: - `certbot certonly` - press `2` - type in your domain name - press return, done Add a few lines to your nginx config, done. ``` ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/ /fullchain.pem; ssl_certificate_key /etc/letsencrypt/live/ /privkey.pem; ssl on; ```

yeah but that's a webserver almost no one has heard of and may not even be in a position to switch to

I'd say it's pretty well known if you have anything to do with Go but there's a simple tutorial for most web servers. If you are able to build a site like that, editing some web server configs by following a tutorial shouldn't be a problem.

In any case, I like the project but I think that in 2017 it's irresponsible to do logins and user registration over http - even if it's just a weekend project.

Re: Show HN: MovieChat.org – Archive and Replacement for IMDb Message Boards

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Post by JimSmith84 »

WayneBro wrote: post #18

Thanks for making this. Some suggestions: - How about linking back to the IMDB page for each movie? - It would be great if you displayed various ratings from IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes and elsewhere kind of like JustWatch.com does (but with links to those ratings pages). - Actually, it would be really cool if you linked to a JustWatch search too so the user can easily see if the movie is streaming anywhere that they subsc…

Yeah I was actually thinking of doing this, just been super busy trying to archive everything from IMDB before the boards shut down.

Do you know the founders at JustWatch?

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