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Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by abstractbill »

ytilibitapmoc wrote: post #15
david927 wrote: post #6

After almost four years here, I've definitely felt recently that HN has jumped the shark. I'm also looking for alternatives. allyourstartuparebelongto.us looks promising.

I agree that HN has jumped the shark. As an example case, I dare you to try to express an opinion on HN which does not toe the party line. And for those of you about to down-vote this comment: where are the articles pointing out the problems with HN, where are the articles showing the flaws in Lisp, where are the articles which denounce venture-capital-funded startups as the snake-oil of the modern age? "But those po…

...where are the articles showing the flaws in Lisp...

I've been reading about Lisp since I first learned of its existence in the early 90s. In all that time I can't think of a really good critical article that I've read about Lisp (there is some decent stuff about the various drawbacks of Common Lisp, or Scheme, or Lisp-1 vs Lisp-2, etc. And then there's some really bad stuff that's just old recycled FUD), but nothing good that really attacks Lisp as a whole critically.

I bet if such an article was written, it would actually get very far on Hacker News indeed. I'd certainly be interested to read it!

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by steveplace »

ytilibitapmoc wrote: post #15
david927 wrote: post #6

After almost four years here, I've definitely felt recently that HN has jumped the shark. I'm also looking for alternatives. allyourstartuparebelongto.us looks promising.

I agree that HN has jumped the shark. As an example case, I dare you to try to express an opinion on HN which does not toe the party line. And for those of you about to down-vote this comment: where are the articles pointing out the problems with HN, where are the articles showing the flaws in Lisp, where are the articles which denounce venture-capital-funded startups as the snake-oil of the modern age? "But those po…

where are the articles pointing out the problems with HN

like this one?

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by jaytee_clone »

steveplace wrote: post #4

Are you going to the "new" posts and upvoting the topics you feel deserve to be on the front page?

Yes. I don't really see how this solves my problem though.

The design of HN is news oriented, not discussion or community oriented. And because it doesn't have categories, when the amount of submission reaches a certain size, up-voting "new" posts has marginal effect compares to random floods of submissions.

A year and half ago, I was reading every "new" post, because I wanted to be fair, but it's just not feasible right now.

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by SkyMarshal »

greyman wrote: post #17

If you don't plan to monetize and brand that forum, I think subreddit is the way to go.

A Stackexchange site might be too. It seems the main difference b/t the two is that the Reddit/HN format is oriented submitting links for discussion and pithy comments, whereas SE is oriented around submitting questions for specific answers and collective problem-solving. The latter might be more what the OP is looking for.

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by saikat »

vaksel wrote: post #7
epi0Bauqu wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want the HN of 3 years ago, http://allyourstartuparebelongto.us/ is for you. I'm looking for a better domain name. Suggestions are welcome. I've been trying to get startup.co and techstartu.ps, but so far no luck. The submission/banning criteria is actionable startup advice for tech startup founders. Relevant tech is OK as long as it directly relates to or is obviously useful to startups. No news. And no polit…

tartups.com is available, so you can do what delicious did and have s.tartups.com

Though without the s, tartups.com has some pretty bad connotations.

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by [deleted] »

icey wrote: post #2

I've started going back to reddit, the subreddits seem to do a pretty good job of staying on-topic these days. Other than that, http://allyourstartuparebelongto.us/ looks like it might be a promising alternative (although I hate the domain name with a passion). If you like the ISV space, The Business of Software forums are good: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?biz I would like something close to HN from…

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Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by nanijoe »

epi0Bauqu wrote: post #14
icey wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are all available: startuphacker.com hackerbusiness.com (or hackerbiz.com) businesshacker.net hackerventure.com foundernews.com foundermaker.com beafounder.com techstarting.com techmaker.com founderstart.com makerstart.com (As an aside, I'm always impressed at how quickly you respond to criticism, even minor nits like domain names)

Thx. I'm still working on fully responding to the ddg thread from yesterday :)

I'm not sure if I'm the only one that websites with black backgrounds bother...

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by tjpick »

ytilibitapmoc wrote: post #15
david927 wrote: post #6

After almost four years here, I've definitely felt recently that HN has jumped the shark. I'm also looking for alternatives. allyourstartuparebelongto.us looks promising.

I agree that HN has jumped the shark. As an example case, I dare you to try to express an opinion on HN which does not toe the party line. And for those of you about to down-vote this comment: where are the articles pointing out the problems with HN, where are the articles showing the flaws in Lisp, where are the articles which denounce venture-capital-funded startups as the snake-oil of the modern age? "But those po…

> where are the articles pointing out the problems with HN

There's guidelines telling you what to do with this feedback. Better to contact them directly with feedback than post an article.

> where are the articles showing the flaws in Lisp

Heresy. Lisp has no flaws. But I'd read a well written article on the subject.

> where are the articles which denounce venture-capital-funded startups as the snake-oil of the modern age

I remember reading plenty of those. There is a lot of information/articles around about bootstrapping and running without VC funding. It does help to browse around rather than just reading the homepage. Some good articles unfortunately don't get the upvotes they deserve. C'est la vie.

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by jaytee_clone »

icey wrote: post #2

I've started going back to reddit, the subreddits seem to do a pretty good job of staying on-topic these days. Other than that, http://allyourstartuparebelongto.us/ looks like it might be a promising alternative (although I hate the domain name with a passion). If you like the ISV space, The Business of Software forums are good: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?biz I would like something close to HN from…

Thanks. What does ISV stands for?
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