After several years programming and using Borland, finally, I got to know what "Turbo" meaning (I am Chinese for not good in English)
22 Years of Delphi and It Still Rocks
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Re: 22 Years of Delphi and It Still Rocks
#132Thanks for making me feel so old... we had a programming lecture twice a week and I was carrying one of those 10 kg "Delphi The Bible" book in my backpacks... that made me feel like a programmer somehow.
Re: 22 Years of Delphi and It Still Rocks
#133Delphi is still popular in the south of Brazil. It's dying, but slowly. There's a lot a legacy application written in Delphi here. Some old programmers, that only know to program in Delphi, may even build new apps with it. It may not be that modern today, but there's the "pay the bills" mindset. I think Delphi will die, but only because it costs a fortune today. If it had a resonable price, many people would continue…
Just so no one else has to try to find the price (you have to search for it a little). The cheapest new user price for Delphi is USD $1,405.
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Re: 22 Years of Delphi and It Still Rocks
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's just no way to develop a GUI application (especially a cross-platform one) without shipping something large. You can use Electron (and basically bundle Chrome), or JavaFX (and bundle a Java runtime), and they're about the same size. But even if you ship all of the Qt dynamic libs, or all of the GTK dependencies, or even wxWidgets... it's still a far cry from "light". It just takes tens of megs to make a windo…
There's just no way to develop a GUI application (especially a cross-platform one) without shipping something large That's not quite true. Check out these Avian examples: https://readytalk.github.io/avian/ Fully statically linked Java cross-platform GUI app (using SWT) in a 1mb download.
Java implies it needs the JRE, so add that to it as well. Of course, Electron probably relies on OS-specific UI libraries as well (although only a little), which should also be considered I guess.
Re: 22 Years of Delphi and It Still Rocks
#135It rocks to the point of server unavailability.
Sorry about that, my blog is self-hosted and never gets much traffic -- roughly 100x general volume
Re: 22 Years of Delphi and It Still Rocks
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you try it? I try it every year (I was a Delphi fan and full time Delphi programmer from Delph-1 to 6) but it is not very good. The Pascal compiler is brilliant and fast but Lazarus itself is unusable every time I try. It often begins by failing to build the basic form until I go through a bunch of steps to fix the install. That's going to put most people off as Delphi never had that issue; it was install-and-go.…
Last time I tried it I did on a virtualbox VM and everything seemed to work. I don't see anything in your link, by the way.
> I don't see anything in your link, by the way.
Ah sorry about that; I am in China and internet is very slow & often broken (HN is very fast though). Probably the image did not (fully) upload. It was an error telling the application crashed. Just the empty default form after pressing run.
Re: 22 Years of Delphi and It Still Rocks
#137I never used Delphi, but I have a couple of friends that were die hard Delphi fanatics. Eventually they moved on to C# as all of the Delphi jobs dried up with Delphi's continually decreasing use. They still swore how they thought it was the best thing they ever worked with, but at the end of the day you have to pay the bills. Maybe it really is great, I don't know. I was a bit surprised looking at Tiobe ( http://www.…
Delphi is used a lot, desktop has first class Win10 support (store included) and mobile clients are cross-platform. Also fast server code -- now coming to Linux. Skype for Windows is still written in Delphi! But I'm very biased
Re: 22 Years of Delphi and It Still Rocks
#138As a pascal user since the early 80's, then an Object Pascal user, then a Delphi user since the first version, I love Delphi but to be honest I cannot afford the yearly updates. For someone that uses it for home projects, $916 for an upgrade is out of the question. Rambling here, but... Delphi 3/5/7 were incredible design packages. I feel they lost focus when they jumped on the .NET bandwagon - maybe it is just my pe…
For home projects, the Starter edition is free.
Re: 22 Years of Delphi and It Still Rocks
#139I've written tons and tons of code in Delphi and remember it fondly. A few issues I had with it toward the end included Hjelsberg turning it into a kitchen sink, me too language, much like IMO the direction C# has gone in, and walking into projects with tons of business logic right behind the forms, empty except blocks, and codebase full of warnings when compiled. Fix your warnings people.
Re: 22 Years of Delphi and It Still Rocks
#140I attended a Clipper user group in Atlanta in the mid 1990's, with my dad. He was into Clipper, was trying to get me interested. The Clipper folks were also into Turbo Pascal. A Borland rep was there to give out swag and talk up the imminent release of Borland Delphi. The Clipper crowd was divided--some excited, some not so much. The older guys, like my dad, had come up programming with punched cards and tape drives.…
I used Clipper back in the day. CA ruined it when they bought it. I was waiting for CA's new product "visual objects" in the meantime Delphi shipped and I've been using it since Delphi 1. I think it's unparalleled for building desktop applications for Mac and windows.