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India has banned disposable plastic in Delhi

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Re: India has banned disposable plastic in Delhi

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Post by mvd366 »

popobobo wrote: post #10
xyzzy4 wrote: post #8

Plastic is the least of Delhi's problems. First they should be banning vehicles that don't meet emission standards. I visited there twice and I'll be lucky if I don't come down with some lung problem. Edit: They should ban the burning of plastic, not plastic itself. And enforce it.

No matter what we do it will never wipe away your prejudice, my friend.

Prejudice is an unfavorable opinion formed without knowledge, thought, or reason. The worsening air quality as a result of vehicular emissions in Delhi is very well documented and will have serious consequences if it is not dealt with seriously. It's not a matter of opinion.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3664745/

Re: India has banned disposable plastic in Delhi

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Post by codemac »

CaiGengYang wrote: post #17

What are they going to replace plastic with ? Can you invent a kind of material that is as capable as plastic but has zero negative effects on the environment ?

It's not that it needs to be equally capable in each way - you need something that is more degradable and ecologically sensible for each specific case.

Re: India has banned disposable plastic in Delhi

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Post by neeleshs »

knowaveragejoe wrote: post #16
popobobo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No matter what we do it will never wipe away your prejudice, my friend.

I fail to see what the above has to do with prejudice, personally. Poor air quality is a problem in many parts of the world, notably so in developing areas.

While prejudice is not probably the correct interpretation, the GPs post reads like "don't ban plastic until air pollution is fixed". Any improvement is better than nothing.

Re: India has banned disposable plastic in Delhi

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Post by throwaway420 »

Not a huge fan of outright bans, and think this is probably the wrong priority for India to focus on. (I understand this is just Delhi)

Air pollution is huge right now. And sad to say, people pooping in streets and rivers is still a major problem.

To me, plastic remnants are a very minor issue in comparison.

Re: India has banned disposable plastic in Delhi

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Post by greglindahl »

codemac wrote: post #22
CaiGengYang wrote: post #17

What are they going to replace plastic with ? Can you invent a kind of material that is as capable as plastic but has zero negative effects on the environment ?

It's not that it needs to be equally capable in each way - you need something that is more degradable and ecologically sensible for each specific case.

Or, in some cases, reusable. Most places in the US that have banned disposable plastic grocery bags are encouraging reusable bags.

Re: India has banned disposable plastic in Delhi

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Post by bendermon »

Note: Thank you for down voting for pointing out a glaring 'fake statistics' and poor journalism, on a #1 trending post on HN.

The first and the second quote do not mean the same thing, not even close.

"A massive 60%t of the plastic waste in the oceans is said to have come from India, according to the Times of India."

The TOI reads - "Banning disposable plastic is a huge step for the capital and the country because India is among the top four biggest plastic polluters in the world, responsible for around 60% of the 8.8 million tons of plastic that is dumped into the world’s oceans every year."

As an Indian, I see a lot of journalists stuck in a colonial era. They go out of their way to tarnish and stereotype the great unwashed. They manage to turn even positive news to mock and heckle the less developed world.

But this article has taken it to great heights. The TOI isn't exactly known for journalistic integrity and often conveniently pulls statistics from their backside. But to misquote the devil, this article has certainly hit the lowest level.

Re: India has banned disposable plastic in Delhi

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Post by jjawssd »

popobobo wrote: post #10
xyzzy4 wrote: post #8

Plastic is the least of Delhi's problems. First they should be banning vehicles that don't meet emission standards. I visited there twice and I'll be lucky if I don't come down with some lung problem. Edit: They should ban the burning of plastic, not plastic itself. And enforce it.

No matter what we do it will never wipe away your prejudice, my friend.

Air pollution caused by vehicles and industry is not a subjective matter of prejudice. It is fact.

Re: India has banned disposable plastic in Delhi

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Post by WalterBright »

Maarten88 wrote: post #13

Rwanda also has this policy, since 2008, and they enforce it. The country is very clean, it looks different than other African countries (and countries like the US), just because there is no plastic rubbish everywhere. I think this is a very good policy, and would welcome it at home. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/15/rwanda...

My father told me that American highways used to be lined with trash until it was made illegal to throw trash out the window.

Re: India has banned disposable plastic in Delhi

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Post by jjawssd »

throwaway420 wrote: post #20
popobobo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No matter what we do it will never wipe away your prejudice, my friend.

What does criticizing air pollution have to do with prejudice?

OP is conflating pollution with his own identity, so an attack on pollution is a personal attack against him and his people.
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