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Post by modeless »

tenpoundhammer wrote: post #269
ryandrake wrote: post #50

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Most place I've worked, we'd waste anywhere from 5-10 minutes at the beginning of every meeting just trying to get A/V systems and voice conferencing to work. "Anyone there? Hello? Crap, someone needs to dial in as the host. OK Is everyone dialed in? Good. Oh, wait, Roger can't hear us. Roger, dial back in. OK. Hey, whoever is at the cocktail party, can you go on mute?? Thank you. All right. Who's projecting? The pro…

I worked for over a year writing software for video conferencing systems. It turns out the market has a lot of very strong solutions, but no one is willing to pay for them. The cost of building great video conferencing solutions begins to sky rocket as you reach the higher echelons of quality. The first 75% of good video conferencing is super cheap and easy to make and as you approach the 100% mark things go up expon…

So what are the strong solutions? Every high end conference room AV system I've ever seen was total garbage from a UX perspective.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by aji »

Artemis2 wrote: post #150
hkmurakami wrote: post #146

I noticed that this is from AWS. Is this the first SaaS application coming from AWS?

Amazon already has WorkDocs and WorkMail in the business productivity segment: https://aws.amazon.com/products/?nc2=h_l3_bu (couldn't find a better page with the list) I guess some of the other services in AWS could be considered as SaaS?

I would add QuickSight to that list https://quicksight.aws/

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by tenpoundhammer »

modeless wrote: post #291
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for over a year writing software for video conferencing systems. It turns out the market has a lot of very strong solutions, but no one is willing to pay for them. The cost of building great video conferencing solutions begins to sky rocket as you reach the higher echelons of quality. The first 75% of good video conferencing is super cheap and easy to make and as you approach the 100% mark things go up expon…

So what are the strong solutions? Every high end conference room AV system I've ever seen was total garbage from a UX perspective.

If you are only looking for UX vidyo has a decent product, Microsoft's latest enterprise offering is good, HPs halo now owned by polycom is good, polycom has some cutting edge stuff that is good but very expensive.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by tenpoundhammer »

modeless wrote: post #291
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for over a year writing software for video conferencing systems. It turns out the market has a lot of very strong solutions, but no one is willing to pay for them. The cost of building great video conferencing solutions begins to sky rocket as you reach the higher echelons of quality. The first 75% of good video conferencing is super cheap and easy to make and as you approach the 100% mark things go up expon…

So what are the strong solutions? Every high end conference room AV system I've ever seen was total garbage from a UX perspective.

But it's important to remember that UX is only about a quarter of the total experience.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by [deleted] »

modeless wrote: post #291
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for over a year writing software for video conferencing systems. It turns out the market has a lot of very strong solutions, but no one is willing to pay for them. The cost of building great video conferencing solutions begins to sky rocket as you reach the higher echelons of quality. The first 75% of good video conferencing is super cheap and easy to make and as you approach the 100% mark things go up expon…

So what are the strong solutions? Every high end conference room AV system I've ever seen was total garbage from a UX perspective.

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Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by zeveb »

miend wrote: post #231
Taek wrote: post #15

They tout security but I don't think it's open source and it looks like everything is stored on Amazon servers. Minimally it is centralized, and you can't verify that there's no backdoor. In this day and age, that means we're both trusting their core intentions, and also trusting that some government won't step in and silently force their hand. I don't personally feel that is good enough to be considered secure anymo…

Like any other hosting, if it's in the US, it must be considered compromised in these terms. That's the world we live in now.

> Like any other hosting, if it's in the US, it must be considered compromised in these terms.

s/, if it's in the US//

There, fixed it for you. Any data not under your control can and will be used against you, especially by a state wielding a monopoly on force.

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Post by Shank »

tzakrajs wrote: post #290
jedahan wrote: post #266

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If you are on OSX, that is a feature of OSX, not Slack. You can turn it off in Keyboard settings IIRC.

Thank you! I really appreciate the clarity as I haven't seen this "Edit -> Substitutions" menu before. I have shared this learning with my friends. If I were a developer of Slack, I would be very tempted to disable that OS functionality (similar to how Sublime Text does not seem to utilize this OS feature).

Ugh, please don't. The fact that Chrome ignores the fact that I have certain OS specific keyboard settings is infuriating.

Turn it off at the OS level if you don't want it. Don't make a decision that makes everyone else who uses the OS frustrated because functionality only exists in a subset of applications.

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Post by ieatfood »

iamatworknow wrote: post #279
monk_e_boy wrote: post #214

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Do you think a video wall would help? I often wonder if it is the size of the screen that makes people feel 'distant' when using video conferencing. Super high def full wall screen, so they can see every hair on your head with minimal lag -- I think this would work, the only thing they'd miss was a handshake.

Why do members of an online conference need to be seen at all? What is the benefit of adding video instead of just using audio -- y'know, the medium by which actually information is exchanged?

Human beings happen to be tuned for face to face communication. They exchange a relatively low bandwidth but high importance information through facial gestures, eyebrows, eye contact, etcetera. As long as businesses relationships are still happening between such human beings, there will be a value placed on seeing each other's faces.

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Post by droopyEyelids »

ajmurmann wrote: post #25
krashidov wrote: post #17

Enterprise conferencing software is so bad and so expensive I'm astonished it took this long for a decent competitor to come in. I'm really surprised Google didn't go all in with making Hangouts a decent competitor. I have a feeling this will make a lot of money.

Hangouts is so strange to me (like many Google products I guess). They got a ton of traction; first release immediately was super solid and then nothing. Nothing has changed in ages. No obvious features get implemented. I would love so much to have s tile view of all participants. Ideally we would get a codec that's actually supported by hardware instead of this battery draining mess. I'd love to have an option for t…

Most everything you're describing is a part of the new beta hangouts.

If you're a part of a large Google Cloud account, have your IT person contact your gCloud account manager and get on the beta. Actually, if you're a part of a large account and your IT team is risk tolerant.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by mderazon »

evantahler wrote: post #86

Appear.in can't be beat.

Agree it's great for small meetings (2-3 people). P2P without any server in between, works as good as your connection.

One thing that bugs me though is using it in Chrome in Mac. 50% of the times the microphone doesn't work and I have to kill coreaudiod and restart the session. I came to a point where I do it before I start a meeting just in case.

It's not appear.in problem though, it happens in Hangouts in Chrome as well

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