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Re: New Macbook Pro power efficiency and time remaining

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Post by nkristoffersen »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #87
snowwrestler wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mac laptops these days are built with backlights strong enough to compete with daylight. In typical working conditions, 100% is way overkill. For max long term comfort, your display should be no brighter than the ambient light levels. Otherwise--if the display is way brighter--your pupils will have to contract when you look at the screen, and dilate when you look away. Your pupils are controlled by muscles and like a…

In a dark room I find the minimum brightness much too bright. Weird feature to wish for, but I think they need to crank the minimum brightness down by at least 25%.

Flux should help in those dark situations :-)

Re: New Macbook Pro power efficiency and time remaining

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Post by nkristoffersen »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #87
snowwrestler wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mac laptops these days are built with backlights strong enough to compete with daylight. In typical working conditions, 100% is way overkill. For max long term comfort, your display should be no brighter than the ambient light levels. Otherwise--if the display is way brighter--your pupils will have to contract when you look at the screen, and dilate when you look away. Your pupils are controlled by muscles and like a…

In a dark room I find the minimum brightness much too bright. Weird feature to wish for, but I think they need to crank the minimum brightness down by at least 25%.

Flux should help in those dark situations :-)

Re: New Macbook Pro power efficiency and time remaining

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Post by nkristoffersen »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #87
snowwrestler wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mac laptops these days are built with backlights strong enough to compete with daylight. In typical working conditions, 100% is way overkill. For max long term comfort, your display should be no brighter than the ambient light levels. Otherwise--if the display is way brighter--your pupils will have to contract when you look at the screen, and dilate when you look away. Your pupils are controlled by muscles and like a…

In a dark room I find the minimum brightness much too bright. Weird feature to wish for, but I think they need to crank the minimum brightness down by at least 25%.

Flux should help in those dark situations :-)

Re: New Macbook Pro power efficiency and time remaining

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Post by glhaynes »

yaseer wrote: post #169
djrogers wrote: post #64

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> at least for professionals? Professional whats? Executives, salespeople, real estate agents, pediatricians, beer distributors - all of these people are professionals, and all of them can and do benefit from smaller and lighter computing power. Clearly your idea of a professional is someone who is chained to a desk writing code or processing complex 3D graphics. No question those are professional uses as well, but t…

You're conflating a 'professional' as a white-collar job classification, and a 'professional' computer user. The macbook pro is a computer for professional computer users. A professional philosophy professor has no need of a macbook pro, a professional video-editor does. Being a 'professional; in your white-collar classification, doesn't imply that you're a professional computer user. It's not an insular definition,…

A professional philosophy professor has no need of a macbook pro, a professional video-editor does.

I don't see why. A philosophy professor might prefer a larger screen and a faster CPU for their web browsing and document editing. And, while a professional video-editor would understandably gripe about it, I have no doubt they could get their work done—if they had to—on a 12" MacBook. Video editors used to get fine work done on Pentiums that offered a small fraction of the performance.

It's not an insular definition, it's a specific definition.

Set by whom? Where?

Re: New Macbook Pro power efficiency and time remaining

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Post by wlesieutre »

akvadrako wrote: post #155
wlesieutre wrote: post #49

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Curious if anyone else had constant sleep/wake failures? I otherwise love the computer, but when I sleep it overnight it inevitably shuts down and has to restart in the morning. I'm sending in the crash report daily just in case they actually use them and maybe it'll get fixed. Not a huge deal since computers boot so fast and I always save things, but it's still annoying.

It could be due to a specific USB device. I had the issue once with what seemed to be a USB-C to USB-A adapter and a high power draw device. Many others have reported issues with external drives.

I have literally no USB devices that I use regularly, and none that are plugged in overnight while it's sleeping.

Re: New Macbook Pro power efficiency and time remaining

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Post by cgriswald »

M_Grey wrote: post #45
dperfect wrote: post #41

> Reducing mA (power draw) rather than increasing mAh (power storage) is the most effective way to increase battery life, which would go a long way to explain manufacturers’ obsession with thinness (which, in electrical terms often directly translates efficiency (i.e., smallness)) in their devices rather than just giving us something that endures. I think it goes the other way; the manufacturers' obsession with thinn…

Then, irony of ironies, people put their ultra-thin devices in cases to protect them, carry multiple batteries for them, or external charging bricks, and my favorite... the oversized extended battery. Throws hands up in air

Even if devices weren't ultrathin they'd need to be in protective cases. Cases can be damaged and easily replaced. A damaged device is more expensive and less convenient to repair or replace.

As for battery packs, I have multiple devices, but I carry one battery pack that can charge all of them as needed. My phone is much lighter in my pocket for not having to have a larger battery (that I don't usually need), my ipad is easier to handle, etc.

Re: New Macbook Pro power efficiency and time remaining

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Post by [deleted] »

megaduck wrote: post #133
Veen wrote: post #127

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I'm a writer, and I consider myself a "pro" in that field. I don't really need the power of the Macbook Pro, but I do need a larger retina screen. The Macbook Pro is really the only laptop Apple makes at the moment that fits my needs. I'm not sure why people who need high performance are so sniffy and condescending about those who don't. A requirement for massive computer resources doesn't make the work more valuable…

You're clearly the target market for these new MBPs, and that's great. Glad you have a machine that fits your needs. People with more strenuous computing needs are miffed because the MBP used to fit our use case, and now it doesn't. There isn't a single Apple product focused on the high performance market any more, and some of us are bitter.

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Re: New Macbook Pro power efficiency and time remaining

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Post by yedpodtrzitko »

Xixi wrote: post #183
dperfect wrote: post #41

> Reducing mA (power draw) rather than increasing mAh (power storage) is the most effective way to increase battery life, which would go a long way to explain manufacturers’ obsession with thinness (which, in electrical terms often directly translates efficiency (i.e., smallness)) in their devices rather than just giving us something that endures. I think it goes the other way; the manufacturers' obsession with thinn…

I do care about that extra 1mm, when it comes to a latptop. I think most people who buy a laptop to use it on the go care about that. To be entirely fair I care more about the weight reduction than the 1mm. For instance the new MacBook Pro 13" is my first MacBook Pro, simply because it's the first that is thin/light enough for me to carry around. Before that I had a MacBook Air from 2011. The MacBook Pro is vastly mo…

You know why people complain? Because some time ago there was Macbook Air for people who prefer a thin and light machine, and then there was Macbook Pro for people who prefer more powerful machine (in whichever meaning). This separation actually made sense. But now they discontinued Air, and they are trying to make a single line full of compromises.

Re: New Macbook Pro power efficiency and time remaining

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Post by adventurer »

whorleater wrote: post #168
pawadu wrote: post #135

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Seriously, why would battery life even matter if you are sitting in the office all day?? With that said, SB can easily do 10-12 hours once you turn off the always-on camera: https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/3qxjrk/fix_battery...

> Seriously, why would battery life even matter if you are sitting in the office all day?? Do you people chain yourselves to your desk the entire day? My office has a the "open-office" trend, which pretty much prompts me to leave and to go various parts of the office during the day, or maybe even the library, and only come back in for meetings.

I don't know what's worse for a dev, being chained to a desk all day or the constant movings and chatter in an open office when you're trying to concentrate.

Re: New Macbook Pro power efficiency and time remaining

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Post by caycep »

M_Grey wrote: post #45
dperfect wrote: post #41

> Reducing mA (power draw) rather than increasing mAh (power storage) is the most effective way to increase battery life, which would go a long way to explain manufacturers’ obsession with thinness (which, in electrical terms often directly translates efficiency (i.e., smallness)) in their devices rather than just giving us something that endures. I think it goes the other way; the manufacturers' obsession with thinn…

Then, irony of ironies, people put their ultra-thin devices in cases to protect them, carry multiple batteries for them, or external charging bricks, and my favorite... the oversized extended battery. Throws hands up in air

My mom throws her 11" MBA in her purse, and charges it only at night.
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