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Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by dbg31415 »

Someone please do what you say and make one that's clearly better than all the other shitty dwarves out there today so the industry can standardize.

"Should we call, or Go to Meeting, or Google Hangout, or Skype, or Lifesize, or Slack, or Adobe Connect, or Zoom, or WebEx, or Chime, or..." It's getting ridiculous.

For new services: Please don't be based in the US or willing to cooperate with the US Government. Remember, "We don't snitch!" is an excellent marketing line -- I'll give you money for that. I don't trust Amazon or any of these at present.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by nym »

nl wrote: post #143
benevol wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read Snowden's Leaks? All of the major tech companies have been on board for a long time (and that was years ago). How can you believe that a giant like Amazon will somehow magically not be part of it? It's time for the country to sharpen its critical thinking skills.

All of the major tech companies have been on board for a long time (and that was years ago). I have read the Snowden leaks. This is one of those times when details matter, and in those details you are wrong . I wrote this previously[1] about Apple, but it applies here too: The problem is that PRISM has conflated two separate things, and it is unclear how much of that conflation occurred at the NSA and how much outsid…

I was under the impression that Google gave bulk access to the NSA, and the NSA wiretapped them regardless. I don't have a source to substantiate that claim though.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by woodylondon »

Wondering if you have a Plus account and setup a call if you then have remote access, group chat etc - a little unclear what happens between Plus and Basic user. if all users need to be Plus then can see this being a problem.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by gurrone »

xroche wrote: post #90

So this is basically what lifesize.com has been providing for ages, sans the Linux support. Truly revolutionary I guess.

From my own experience lifesize voice and video quality is so awful that anything from an egineering company should be superior. Also the stability of the lifesize appliance is horrible. Often enough we've to reboot them before every meeting, because the microphone went dead again. The only positive point is that it works with Chromium on Linux including the window sharing extension. I hope it's of slightly better quality then webex. But I fear that is overly optimistic at least.

On the other hand Google Hangouts is for free, has from my experience a better quality and all of them ship your data to the US. If amazon offers something similar they and can offer an option that keeps your data in Europe that would be an interesting option.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by colmmacc »

benevol wrote: post #101

> Amazon Chime is a communications service that transforms online meetings with a secure, easy-to-use application that you can trust. - Amazon, PRISM partner

"Amazon never participated in the NSA’s PRISM program." - Stephen Schmidt, CISO @ AWS

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/security/privacy-and-data-secur...

(Full disclosure: I work on AWS}.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by leonroy »

benevol wrote: post #101

> Amazon Chime is a communications service that transforms online meetings with a secure, easy-to-use application that you can trust. - Amazon, PRISM partner

Having done a lot of work with financial firms in the past, I found that they're incredibly wary of any agency having access to any of their data.

As a consequence any telephony or messaging product we built had to have a self hosted deployment as part and parcel of our product offering. This meant we usually went for a Java backend which gave us great packaging and install tools. It also meant we had .deb and .rpm packages for all our products.

I can't tell you how much those packages helped. Once you start bundling up your software deployments as proper versioned installation packages you become quite spoilt in the DevOps department - it's hard to use Chef/Puppet or Vagrantfiles for software installations now!

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by leonroy »

benevol wrote: post #101

> Amazon Chime is a communications service that transforms online meetings with a secure, easy-to-use application that you can trust. - Amazon, PRISM partner

Having done a lot of work with financial firms in the past, I found that they're incredibly wary of any agency having access to any of their data.

As a consequence any telephony or messaging product we built had to have a self hosted deployment as part and parcel of our product offering. This meant we usually went for a Java backend which gave us great packaging and install tools. It also meant we had .deb and .rpm packages for all our products.

I can't tell you how much those packages helped. Once you start bundling up your software deployments as proper versioned installation packages you become quite spoilt in the DevOps department - it's hard to use Chef/Puppet or Vagrantfiles for software installations now!

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by leonroy »

benevol wrote: post #101

> Amazon Chime is a communications service that transforms online meetings with a secure, easy-to-use application that you can trust. - Amazon, PRISM partner

Having done a lot of work with financial firms in the past, I found that they're incredibly wary of any agency having access to any of their data.

As a consequence any telephony or messaging product we built had to have a self hosted deployment as part and parcel of our product offering. This meant we usually went for a Java backend which gave us great packaging and install tools. It also meant we had .deb and .rpm packages for all our products.

I can't tell you how much those packages helped. Once you start bundling up your software deployments as proper versioned installation packages you become quite spoilt in the DevOps department - it's hard to use Chef/Puppet or Vagrantfiles for software installations now!

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by newscracker »

Jaruzel wrote: post #93
ryandrake wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most place I've worked, we'd waste anywhere from 5-10 minutes at the beginning of every meeting just trying to get A/V systems and voice conferencing to work. "Anyone there? Hello? Crap, someone needs to dial in as the host. OK Is everyone dialed in? Good. Oh, wait, Roger can't hear us. Roger, dial back in. OK. Hey, whoever is at the cocktail party, can you go on mute?? Thank you. All right. Who's projecting? The pro…

What you need there then (if you are a Windows shop - unlikely), is Lync or Skype for Business. Despite it being Microsoft, I've found it to be the most reliable and seamless system for multi-party Audio, Video, and Screen-sharing based meetings - and I've used at some time or another in my career almost all the other big hitters in the corporate virtual-conferencing space. Combine Lync/SfB with one of those nice mul…

Anecdotal, but our company uses SfB and it has been anything but good. We always have problems in voice calls (which forms the majority of use) - doesn't matter if we're all sitting on the same LAN with wired connections or on very good Internet connections away from the office. The number of disconnects, breaking audio, unable to hear someone, and of course, SfB deciding to crash sometimes after some updates - it's been terrible for people using it. The company has "saved" money by moving to it from using phone lines. Who cares about individual productivity anyway?
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