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Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by djsumdog »

andy_ppp wrote: post #115

This looks awesome; I'm regularly told that Amazon is a horrendous place to work yet they seem to be producing great software and interesting startup type concepts all the while. Not sure how they do it? AWS is a bit of a mess, maybe it's just there that is problematic...

There are good people everywhere. There are also terrible people in every business. The best people tend to not care about money and leave to go work as paramedics or line cooks or attempt a startup .. and then end up back in software after a year or two. One day we'll get out of here.

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Post by craigds »

krashidov wrote: post #17

Enterprise conferencing software is so bad and so expensive I'm astonished it took this long for a decent competitor to come in. I'm really surprised Google didn't go all in with making Hangouts a decent competitor. I have a feeling this will make a lot of money.

We've tried loads of them. Skype, hangouts, appear.in, zoom, ... They all sucked with voice and video all cutting out and getting regularly garbled etc. And finally Slack added video, and is amazing. No problems since then, Slack has solved the problem for us.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by nl »

benevol wrote: post #116
tdmule wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has this been substantiated? To my knowledge Amazon denies being a part of PRISM and the only thing a quick search reveals is that denial and Snowden criticizing Amazon for not being HTTPS by default on some of their endpoints.

Have you read Snowden's Leaks? All of the major tech companies have been on board for a long time (and that was years ago). How can you believe that a giant like Amazon will somehow magically not be part of it? It's time for the country to sharpen its critical thinking skills.

All of the major tech companies have been on board for a long time (and that was years ago).

I have read the Snowden leaks.

This is one of those times when details matter, and in those details you are wrong.

I wrote this previously[1] about Apple, but it applies here too:

The problem is that PRISM has conflated two separate things, and it is unclear how much of that conflation occurred at the NSA and how much outside.

Apple was (and is) compliant in the "release customer details with a court order" thing, which it seems is part of the PRISM data.

However, there was a second part, where the NSA got bulk access to communications without a court order. It is unclear which companies were complicit in this part. We know Google wasn't (because the NSA slide decks show how they had to intercept Google's inter and intra-data center links which were unencrypted at the time - and Google undertook a crash program to fix that).

Apple's statements are pretty clear: they say they only release information with a court order. That means they weren't complicit in bulk collection - but they may have been hacked at the time like Google was.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13517740

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by nl »

ryanSrich wrote: post #36
krashidov wrote: post #17

Enterprise conferencing software is so bad and so expensive I'm astonished it took this long for a decent competitor to come in. I'm really surprised Google didn't go all in with making Hangouts a decent competitor. I have a feeling this will make a lot of money.

You're right in that 99% of them are complete garbage. However I was pleasantly surprised when my company switched to Zoom[1]. A company I had never heard of before. In terms of call quality I've never experienced anything better. Beyond that their mobile experience is almost better in terms of raw features than their desktop app (which is still very good in its own right). 1.) https://www.crunchbase.com/organization…

We've recently switched to Zoom too, and had pretty good experiences with it.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by Pyxl101 »

nl wrote: post #143
benevol wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read Snowden's Leaks? All of the major tech companies have been on board for a long time (and that was years ago). How can you believe that a giant like Amazon will somehow magically not be part of it? It's time for the country to sharpen its critical thinking skills.

All of the major tech companies have been on board for a long time (and that was years ago). I have read the Snowden leaks. This is one of those times when details matter, and in those details you are wrong . I wrote this previously[1] about Apple, but it applies here too: The problem is that PRISM has conflated two separate things, and it is unclear how much of that conflation occurred at the NSA and how much outsid…

Yes, this is a crucial distinction and matches my understanding from what I've read of these public documents: PRISM is a program in which the NSA intercepted Internet and other communications, and then reconstructed the meaning of those communications at a higher level -- that is, interpreting HTTP requests to Google as searches, email views, and whatever else.

I did not see any evidence in the leaked documentation nor the reporting on those primary sources that the companies involved were complicit. If this evidence exists I would be very interested to know, but from Google's actions subsequent to the leaks it did not seem they agreed with the program or were complying with it, and instead took actions to oppose the program by encrypting their communications links internally, and indirectly by advocating encryption in public Internet protocols such as HTTP and SMTP.

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Post by Roritharr »

nodesocket wrote: post #128
Roritharr wrote: post #76

While we're on the topic of conferencing software, is there a List for Software to use when you want 4k/30p or 1080/60p? Skype seems to not be up to the task. Our Gbit Connection is.

Have you tried Slack video?

That's only 1on1 for now. We need at least 3 people (more often 5) in a video conference.

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by pmontra »

sigsergv wrote: post #104
pmontra wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't know about Skype for business but they are rewriting the normal Skype client for Linux. https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/bd-p/Linux I didn't try it out. The old client still works. The only missing feature is screen sharing in multiple parties video calls. I'm using TeamViewer for that. Desktop sharing is much smoother with TeamViewer anyway. The real plus of Skype over Hangout or Webex is the chat: the his…

Old client will be turned off in a month or so.

That would be a big problem. Any link to that announcement?

Edit: never mind, I googled it https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-End-of-...

(I should have googled first, asked second)

It's a problem because it seems that the new client is far from being fully functional.

Another update: The Linux client v4.3 seems to be safe. In a post on page 2 of that thread the community manager states

> At this time we are not retiring any of the existing working Linux Clients.

What they are retiring are old Windows and Mac clients

> beginning March 1, users running older versions of Skype for Windows desktop (7.16 and below) or Skype for Mac (7.0 to 7.18) will no longer be able to sign in.

Phew!

Re: Amazon Chime

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Post by Artemis2 »

hkmurakami wrote: post #146

I noticed that this is from AWS. Is this the first SaaS application coming from AWS?

Amazon already has WorkDocs and WorkMail in the business productivity segment: https://aws.amazon.com/products/?nc2=h_l3_bu (couldn't find a better page with the list)

I guess some of the other services in AWS could be considered as SaaS?

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