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Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by jasikpark »

milankragujevic wrote: post #35
sushid wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's simply untrue. You can download a copy of Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft. [0] It's the first search result if you Google Windows 10 ISO. Plus, most laptops don't come with a recovery USB (neither do Macs) and IMO having a recovery partition is silly when installing it from scratch is cleaner/easier. [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Maybe on windows 7 or 8/8.1, but on 10 I see no download, how can I download an ISO without downloading a program? Plus let's say I have a metered connection (that I often do, when I'm away from home) and my windows 10 broke by itself as it often does? I can't go to a library or something and download the iso because I don't have admin permissions and microsoft's tool requires admin permissions. I'm not trying to cri…

You have a good point. As a specific solution to that problem though, I would suggest Rufus. It runs without system privileges.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by wire9 »

flukus wrote: post #50
wire9 wrote: post #45

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Does 'More download options' reveal more options? http://i.imgur.com/s4ElZFt.png

Nothing relevant: >Sign in to the Volume Licensing Service Center to download Enterprise editions. >Sign in to your subscription on the MSDN Portal for MSDN downloads. > Visit the Windows Insider site to download Insider Preview builds > Visit the Download Academic Products page for Education editions (product key required).

Jeez, just when I thought Microsoft was getting better about letting people...actually download their software... they go and create pages that display completely different things based on what OS you're running.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by zepto »

paulkafasis wrote: post #42
dirtae wrote: post #36

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Piezo, Rogue Amoeba's app, was removed from the Mac App Store with "minimal publicity", according to their blog post: https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2017/02/10/piezos-life-outsid...

That is quite correct. When we removed Piezo from the Mac App Store a year ago, we didn't send out a press release, nor seek publicity over this move in any way. We simply removed it and explained why on our blog ( https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2016/02/12/piezo-1-5-arrives-... ). That was it. We can certainly debate how well-established or tech-savvy our users are (though I will note that Piezo is by far our simples…

True, but your own brand and storefront is very well established and respected for more than a decade. This makes the story entirely unrepresentative of what happens when developers in general quit the Mac App Store.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by [deleted] »

paulkafasis wrote: post #42
dirtae wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Piezo, Rogue Amoeba's app, was removed from the Mac App Store with "minimal publicity", according to their blog post: https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2017/02/10/piezos-life-outsid...

That is quite correct. When we removed Piezo from the Mac App Store a year ago, we didn't send out a press release, nor seek publicity over this move in any way. We simply removed it and explained why on our blog ( https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2016/02/12/piezo-1-5-arrives-... ). That was it. We can certainly debate how well-established or tech-savvy our users are (though I will note that Piezo is by far our simples…

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Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by sigjuice »

cortesoft wrote: post #40
sigjuice wrote: post #34

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https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202152 seems to imply that there is no such limit. Can I use apps from the Mac App Store on more than one computer? Apps from the Mac App Store may be used on any Macs that you own or control for your personal use.

You can only have 10 devices (and only 5 of them computers) associated to a single Apple ID: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204074

That does not make sense for the Mac App Store. Mac Apps will only run on a computer.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by arielm »

I think that without knowing the y-axis of that chart it's hard to judge whether it's really not worth it to even be listed.

Mac apps are more niche than their mobile counterparts. Why is a discussion for a different time, but _selling_ niche products is very different than freemium or even paid mobile apps.

If sales are low on a daily basis I'd say the downloads came from users who knew what they wanted and just needed a way to get it, which is what I suspect is happening.

I'm not trying to defend the Mac App Store here, obviously it leaves a lot to be desired as it related to discovery. I'm not sure if we can blame Apple for that or not though. Desktop app stores never really took off with steam being the only exception. And steam isn't for apps.

The only real advantage I see the MAS could have is credibility when it gets to subscriptions. Let's see how Apple will handle that.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by WillPostForFood »

paulkafasis wrote: post #42
dirtae wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Piezo, Rogue Amoeba's app, was removed from the Mac App Store with "minimal publicity", according to their blog post: https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2017/02/10/piezos-life-outsid...

That is quite correct. When we removed Piezo from the Mac App Store a year ago, we didn't send out a press release, nor seek publicity over this move in any way. We simply removed it and explained why on our blog ( https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2016/02/12/piezo-1-5-arrives-... ). That was it. We can certainly debate how well-established or tech-savvy our users are (though I will note that Piezo is by far our simples…

I believe you didn't do it seeking publicity, but you definitely got some.

https://www.appleworld.today/blog/2016/2/13/rogue-amoebas-pi...

http://www.imore.com/piezo-improves-application-audio-record...

https://www.macstories.net/linked/piezo-exits-the-mac-app-st...

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by astrodust »

dirtae wrote: post #36
BoorishBears wrote: post #3

*What happens when you pull a well established app with an extremely well established (and very tech savvy) user base from the macOS App Store in a public fashion.

Piezo, Rogue Amoeba's app, was removed from the Mac App Store with "minimal publicity", according to their blog post: https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2017/02/10/piezos-life-outsid...

They're also a very savvy company that has their own store. They didn't have to do any work other than turn off the App Store listing.

Smaller developers may have to go through considerable pain and anguish in setting up their own store, or they can suffer through even more angusih and pain when the store they entrusted to do their sales goes down in flames, as with Kagi. https://tidbits.com/article/16665

Being self-hosted is obviously better if you can swing it, but it's more work and it's not for everyone.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by fpgeek »

arielm wrote: post #56

I think that without knowing the y-axis of that chart it's hard to judge whether it's really not worth it to even be listed. Mac apps are more niche than their mobile counterparts. Why is a discussion for a different time, but _selling_ niche products is very different than freemium or even paid mobile apps. If sales are low on a daily basis I'd say the downloads came from users who knew what they wanted and just nee…

> Desktop app stores never really took off with steam being the only exception. And steam isn't for apps.

Mobile app stores aren't for apps (or at least paid apps) either. If you filter out all the games, the frontends for external services and all the other free apps, how much is left? How significant is it?

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by astrodust »

cortesoft wrote: post #40
sigjuice wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202152 seems to imply that there is no such limit. Can I use apps from the Mac App Store on more than one computer? Apps from the Mac App Store may be used on any Macs that you own or control for your personal use.

You can only have 10 devices (and only 5 of them computers) associated to a single Apple ID: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204074

I hit the device limit constantly on iTunes and have to declare "bakruptcy" (unuauthorize all devices) to reset it. This is what happens when you have a laptop, a desktop and work and home, a gaming computer, and things like a media centre computer.

I have never once hit it on apps.

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