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Re: H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms

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Post by calvinbhai » Mon, Feb 13, 2017, 6:14 PM UTC

camus2 wrote: post #242

calvinbhai wrote: post #171

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read my reply to @raitom above. Europeans probably dont know how they can work in US without the shackles of H1b. Ignorant people always think facts are lies. Open your eyes dear European :)

> . Yes Mr. or Ms. French, you too. > Ignorant people always think facts are lies. You're answer to raitom is uninformed bullshit, with a patronizing and insulting tone on the top. I'm well aware of the process, I went through it. I'm telling you Europeans need H1b as much as Indians or Chinese do in order to work in US.

sure. But the workaround (Filing GC under OPT) works only for those who are not Indians or Chinese.

I dont understand why people (who are not Indian or chinese) cannot spare 2 years to get a masters degree and take this step, instead of risking H1b lottery and take the long winded road to work in US.

Re: H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms

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Post by calvinbhai » Mon, Feb 13, 2017, 6:17 PM UTC

xenadu02 wrote: post #323

Chris2048 wrote: post #286

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What collateral do you offer against the unproven claim of "I'll create 10 jobs in 1 year"? Are you saying you'll fund the startup yourself?

If he doesn't create the 10 jobs within 5-10 years his visa is revoked and he goes home. That seems reasonable, no? It is similar to the entrepreneur visa DHS just finalized. If you have a certain amount of funding you can stay for a while, with the option to renew as long as you meet certain objectives (creating X jobs and raising $x more funding). Immigration is not a zero-sum game. Immigrants need houses to live i…

+1 to what you said!

And those on H1b pay max taxes (for that salary bracket).

Most citizens who are sw devs, can work as 1099, drawing similar salary as a W2, but not even pay half the taxes (federal, state, social security and medicare) because most of it can be expensed, and salary they pay themselves will be artificially low.

H1b visa holders dont have that choice of not paying tax.

Re: H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms

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Post by calvinbhai » Mon, Feb 13, 2017, 6:22 PM UTC

Chris2048 wrote: post #385

xenadu02 wrote: post #323

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If he doesn't create the 10 jobs within 5-10 years his visa is revoked and he goes home. That seems reasonable, no? It is similar to the entrepreneur visa DHS just finalized. If you have a certain amount of funding you can stay for a while, with the option to renew as long as you meet certain objectives (creating X jobs and raising $x more funding). Immigration is not a zero-sum game. Immigrants need houses to live i…

> If he doesn't create the 10 jobs within 5-10 years his visa is revoked and he goes home. That seems reasonable, no? Depends, is he funding the startup himself? If so, fair enough, he gambles his labour on a venture likely to benefit the US if it pays off. If not, He gets a 10-year visa, and maybe a chance at rolling the dice. 10 years is long enough to make good money without risking a startup. Put up 10 years wort…

bootstrap = grow a company from own funds and generated revenues, instead of taking external / investor funding.

You seem to be agreeing to give a green card equivalent of rights to an immigrant who is willing to bootstrap own startup and probably invest own money in it?

Re: H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms

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Post by mavelikara » Tue, Feb 14, 2017, 10:01 AM UTC

winter_blue wrote: post #410

mavelikara wrote: post #392

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The place in line stays intact, especially after the new rules came into play. Nevertheless, the process has to restarted - from PERM onwards - at the new job. PERM is a process which carries much uncertainty - your application could get selected for additional scrutiny randomly, in which case it can take more than a year. During this period the priority date can become current and then retrogress again for many year…

> the process has to restarted - from PERM onwards - at the new job PERM (labor certification) has to be done all over again at the new job? That really sucks. I thought that if the new job was "substantially similar" , you wouldn't need to go through PERM all over again at the new position. Are you sure about this? Also, is there some good reading material, for an H-1B visa holder, to understand how this whole thing…

> PERM (labor certification) has to be done all over again at the new job?

> Are you sure about this?

IANAL, but I believe this to be the case. The original sources are all reams of legalese, but this answer on Quora summarizes the basics: https://www.quora.com/If-an-employer-has-applied-for-a-green...