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what relevance does his personal life have to do with anything?
Can you completely disentangle an individual's spiritual/religious/philosophical teachings from their personal lives? For example, would you assign the same credibility to the teachings delivered by a Catholic priest who has been proven to have molested children?
As with all enlightened superstar spiritual teachers, just don't look his life too closely or you will be disappointed. Even people who start good and their feet on the ground (like Krishnamurti) end up full of shit when they get too much wrong kind of attention. https://tricycle.org/magazine/the-shadow-side-krishnamurti/ “If you want to lose your religion, make friends with the priest.” As someone who's second caree…
> “If you want to lose your religion, make friends with the priest.” Sounds quite puritanical a view. Even if we consider Christianity, a priest can and will be (or have been) as flawed as any man, including even a hypocrite, greedy, murderer or worse, and even all kinds of original Christian doctrine (except the BS about the Pope being some kind of super-saint) agrees with that. Heck, the very first person believed…
Clerics in Western religions (Z, J, C, I) (claimed to) sit on a privileged spiritual perch and certainly in Christianity are subject to the "original" 'beam/mote' admonishment.
So yes, if your neighbor is an adulterer, it may be "puritanical" to get on a high horse, but if your confessor is a wolf in sheep's clothing, that is a different story.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
what relevance does his personal life have to do with anything?
Can you completely disentangle an individual's spiritual/religious/philosophical teachings from their personal lives? For example, would you assign the same credibility to the teachings delivered by a Catholic priest who has been proven to have molested children?
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In other words, it's one thing when someone is claiming to speak on behalf of a deity; it's another otherwise. To be hypocritical in such a context reflects much more harshly on the priest than it does on, say, the civil rights activist.
I am very curious about what people on HN do think about 1.OSHO 2.Sadhguru
As with all enlightened superstar spiritual teachers, just don't look his life too closely or you will be disappointed. Even people who start good and their feet on the ground (like Krishnamurti) end up full of shit when they get too much wrong kind of attention. https://tricycle.org/magazine/the-shadow-side-krishnamurti/ “If you want to lose your religion, make friends with the priest.” As someone who's second caree…
>enlightened superstar spiritual teachers Where did you get this. Show me one reference to where he claimed 1. he is enlightened ( whatever that means) 2. he is a superstar 3. he is teacher In fact , he goes out of his way to say the disclaimer that he is not some sort a guru/teacher and ppl should not follow his words blindly. What does his personal life have to do with anything? Do you have any criticism of what he…
One thing is for sure, his images in old age (at least to me) convey a melancholic doubt as opposed to the expected beatific enlightened soul. YMMV.
The self hides in many ways, under every stone, the self can hide in compassion, going to India and looking after poor people, because the self is attached to some idea, faith, conclusion, belief, which makes me compassionate because I love Jesus or Krishna, and I go up to heaven. The self has many masks, the mask of meditation, the mask of achieving the highest, the mask that I am enlightened, that “I know of what I speak.” All this concern about humanity is another mask. So one has to have an extraordinary, subtle, quick brain to see where it is hiding. It requires great attention, watching, watching, watching. On Mind and Thought, p 133
As with all enlightened superstar spiritual teachers, just don't look his life too closely or you will be disappointed. Even people who start good and their feet on the ground (like Krishnamurti) end up full of shit when they get too much wrong kind of attention. https://tricycle.org/magazine/the-shadow-side-krishnamurti/ “If you want to lose your religion, make friends with the priest.” As someone who's second caree…
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>enlightened superstar spiritual teachers Where did you get this. Show me one reference to where he claimed 1. he is enlightened ( whatever that means) 2. he is a superstar 3. he is teacher In fact , he goes out of his way to say the disclaimer that he is not some sort a guru/teacher and ppl should not follow his words blindly. What does his personal life have to do with anything? Do you have any criticism of what he…
Well the linked domain is krishnamurti-teachings.info.
As with all enlightened superstar spiritual teachers, just don't look his life too closely or you will be disappointed. Even people who start good and their feet on the ground (like Krishnamurti) end up full of shit when they get too much wrong kind of attention. https://tricycle.org/magazine/the-shadow-side-krishnamurti/ “If you want to lose your religion, make friends with the priest.” As someone who's second caree…
"Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water."
