But what does it reduce the risk of what we DO NOT KNOW is happening to us? Perhaps a disease or affect that is difficult to measure immediately, but is affect-ing us ul-tim-at-ely.
Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart disease risk (2016)
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Re: Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart disease risk (2016)
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
The grey matter in your brain is mostly cholesterol. I've personally lost 10 pounds in 10 days eating a high fat, low carb diet, with light excercise about 3 days a week. Kerrygold is my #1 choice for butter, because it comes from grass-fed cows.
Congratulations on your weight loss! Separately, I don't know if I understand your point. To me you are saying that because the grey matter in our brains is made of cholesterol that means we should eat more cholesterol and your recommendation for how to get more cholesterol is by using grass fed butter. Did I correctly state your point?
I think the point was that most of the health-conscious general public has the mindset that fat is the enemy and that things like cholesterol should be avoided at (almost) all costs.
The reality is that you can have a diet that is relatively high in fat and still lose weight, just as you can have a diet that is low in fat and still put on weight. As for cholesterol, it isn’t a toxin that should be eradicated from your diet - it’s something that just needs to be eaten in moderation (perhaps with butter on toast for breakfast, rather than fried chicken for lunch).
Re: Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart disease risk (2016)
#53Cholesterol isn't bad, it's in fact very important for the production of testosterone among other things. The problem comes from the inability to use it because the body isn't healthy. Polyunsaturated fats will produce bad byproducts when it breaks down and over time makes the body sick. We crucially lack magnesium and potassium in our diet. There are tons of studies showing the benefits of magnesium against heart di…
The grey matter in your brain is mostly cholesterol. I've personally lost 10 pounds in 10 days eating a high fat, low carb diet, with light excercise about 3 days a week. Kerrygold is my #1 choice for butter, because it comes from grass-fed cows.
Sounds like someone might have been hanging out on /r/keto. I just lost 20lb in a month on keto.
Re: Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart disease risk (2016)
#54What would certainly help is adhering to the WHO recommendation of having a maximum of 25g (0.9 ounces) of sugar daily.
Re: Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart disease risk (2016)
#55There is nothing wrong with butter. Oils can become rancid. Clarified butter or ghee is even better as they have longer shelf life.
It's an animal product with the obvious ethics problems and cow methane boosting the co2 footprint.
A drive to a store to buy oil has a larger co2 footprint than the butter producing cow. That make the butter eating cyclist a more ethical person than a oil buying driver, if we are going to argue co2 footprints.
Re: Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart disease risk (2016)
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good comment. A few things: >- polyunsaturated fats are the category that includes omega 6 and omega 3 fatty acids. Even further, omega 3's can be ALA (from plants) or DHA (e.g. salmon) variety. Omega 3's and in particular DHA have been shown to have anti-inflammatory and other health properties. You missed EPA which is also in fatty fish. ALA doesn't convert very well in humans to DHA or EPA. So eating lots of flax…
Good point on PUFA, that was probably worth making it into my conclusion too. In my home cooking I've started using macadamia nut oil (similar profile to olive oil, it's high in monounsaturated fats) in place of vegetable oil. You can get it on Amazon and it has a more neutral, slightly nutty flavor and a higher smoking point than olive oil, so it's great for slightly higher temps or cooking foods that you don't want…
How does macadamia nut oil compare to olive oil on price per liter? Is it within a factor of 10?
Re: Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart disease risk (2016)
#57That whole myth will inevitably be revealed as a coup by the soybean industry, right? Right up there with the hogwash of the food pyramid.
It was a clever plot from the Cosa Nostra to boost the sales of Italian olive oil.
Re: Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart disease risk (2016)
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's an animal product with the obvious ethics problems and cow methane boosting the co2 footprint.
A drive to a store to buy oil has a larger co2 footprint than the butter producing cow. That make the butter eating cyclist a more ethical person than a oil buying driver, if we are going to argue co2 footprints.
A 500 g packet of butter has a footprint of 4.7 kg of CO2 equivalent. If a car does 200 grams of CO2e / km, distance by car on the store trip would have to be over 23 km to match the butter.
Re: Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart disease risk (2016)
#59Cholesterol isn't bad, it's in fact very important for the production of testosterone among other things. The problem comes from the inability to use it because the body isn't healthy. Polyunsaturated fats will produce bad byproducts when it breaks down and over time makes the body sick. We crucially lack magnesium and potassium in our diet. There are tons of studies showing the benefits of magnesium against heart di…
Those are very nice points...
"The problem comes from the inability to use it because the body isn't healthy. Polyunsaturated fats will produce bad byproducts when it breaks down and over time makes the body sick."
However you could be easily making all of this up or be using bad/unscientific sources. Could you show us the studies/articles that you are using to gain those insights?
Re: Replacing butter with vegetable oils does not cut heart disease risk (2016)
#60Cholesterol isn't bad, it's in fact very important for the production of testosterone among other things. The problem comes from the inability to use it because the body isn't healthy. Polyunsaturated fats will produce bad byproducts when it breaks down and over time makes the body sick. We crucially lack magnesium and potassium in our diet. There are tons of studies showing the benefits of magnesium against heart di…
The grey matter in your brain is mostly cholesterol. I've personally lost 10 pounds in 10 days eating a high fat, low carb diet, with light excercise about 3 days a week. Kerrygold is my #1 choice for butter, because it comes from grass-fed cows.
The problem with ketogenic diets is not the weight loss. The diet works for weight loss, that is undisputed. The problems are in the longer term with elevated cholesterol and increasing insulin resistance.
Example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703903
There's however tons of this. Most keto bloggers will try to tell you that increasing LDL-C is okay for different reasons (depending on who you read). That is however just not true. The link between LDL-C and heart disease is very strong and has been proven over decades.