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How AirBnB's Data Hid the Facts in NYC [pdf]

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Re: How AirBnB's Data Hid the Facts in NYC [pdf]

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The facts reveal that AirBNB is actively covering up that they are permitting hosts to violate New York Law by listing multiple dwellings on the platform.

Hmm. Is that their responsibility to enforce? Not really familiar with the details here, but it seems akin to holding Craigslist responsible for someone selling a stolen bike.

I would say you have a bad analogy - Craigslist doesn't really have a good way of knowing if somebody is selling something stolen.

AirBNB on the other hand is covering evidence of their customers breaking the law, on purpose.

Re: How AirBnB's Data Hid the Facts in NYC [pdf]

#12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More akin to Craigslist deleting a bunch of stolen bike posts right before snapshotting the DB, during an investigation of illegal sales on Craigslist. ~~~(And only deleting them in the city where the investigation is happening)~~~

Did that happen?

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Re: How AirBnB's Data Hid the Facts in NYC [pdf]

#13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More akin to Craigslist deleting a bunch of stolen bike posts right before snapshotting the DB, during an investigation of illegal sales on Craigslist. ~~~(And only deleting them in the city where the investigation is happening)~~~

Did that happen?

Actually I miss read the link. The parenthetical is inaccurate, but the rest is exactly what the article alleges.

Re: How AirBnB's Data Hid the Facts in NYC [pdf]

#16
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. Is that their responsibility to enforce? Not really familiar with the details here, but it seems akin to holding Craigslist responsible for someone selling a stolen bike.

I would say you have a bad analogy - Craigslist doesn't really have a good way of knowing if somebody is selling something stolen. AirBNB on the other hand is covering evidence of their customers breaking the law, on purpose.

so isn't that ipso facto aid and abetting?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiding_and_abetting

Re: How AirBnB's Data Hid the Facts in NYC [pdf]

#18
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. Is that their responsibility to enforce? Not really familiar with the details here, but it seems akin to holding Craigslist responsible for someone selling a stolen bike.

I would say you have a bad analogy - Craigslist doesn't really have a good way of knowing if somebody is selling something stolen. AirBNB on the other hand is covering evidence of their customers breaking the law, on purpose.

If states don't have to enforce federal immigration law then do businesses have to enforce state restrictions?

(Probably yes. If that's what the laws say. I have no idea.)

Re: How AirBnB's Data Hid the Facts in NYC [pdf]

#19
post #3

ELI5 for someone not privy to this debate?

Housing in NYC is expensive. Zoning laws exist in part to control housing costs. Airbnb is seen as a way to circumvent these laws by facilitating short-term listings in otherwise long-term residential areas.

Airbnb released a detailed snapshot of its NYC listings in order to minimize such concerns and prevent restrictions on its business. However, individuals who had been consistently collecting similar data from Airbnb's website noticed that the snapshot was misleading. Airbnb had instituted a crackdown on "bad" listings immediately prior to the snapshot, but allowed them to return right after.

Re: How AirBnB's Data Hid the Facts in NYC [pdf]

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post #3

ELI5 for someone not privy to this debate?

Housing in NYC is expensive. Zoning laws exist in part to control housing costs. Airbnb is seen as a way to circumvent these laws by facilitating short-term listings in otherwise long-term residential areas. Airbnb released a detailed snapshot of its NYC listings in order to minimize such concerns and prevent restrictions on its business. However, individuals who had been consistently collecting similar data from Air…

Disgraceful behavior, but would no doubt be condoned here as excellent hustle.
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